Thank you for your comments Pau, very interesting and helpful!

You are right that I jumped to conclusions too quickly. I didn't even realise that Oracle Linux has a v8. I somehow thought they stopped at 7 and therefore did not see any other relevant RHEL clones. So let me re-evaluate my life choices next year.


Von: "Pau Garcia Quiles" <pau.garcia@suse.com>
An: "Stefan Bluhm" <opensuse.org@bluhm-de.com>, "uyuni-devel" <uyuni-devel@opensuse.org>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2020 17:58:14
Betreff: Re: Uyuni port to RHEL8 - Impact of the CentOS 8 announcement.

Hello

SUSE, as the main contributor to Uyuni, remains committed to supporting openSUSE as the base operating system for Uyuni (and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server as the base operating system for SUSE Manager, the downstream of Uyuni).

In regards to CentOS as a client, there are two sides to it:
  • Support for CentOS Stream. This discussion looks a lot like the one we had a few months back about supporting openSUSE Tumbleweed as a client. I think we can do that for Uyuni Master but I am not sure we can do that for Uyuni Stable. It will depend on how fast CentOS Stream moves in its new life; if it moves too fast, maybe we release Uyuni 2020.06 on June 20th and by June 30th client tools no longer work. But Uyuni Master should be doable, like for Tumbleweed.
  • Support for CentOS as a clone of RHEL: we are already seeing new clones appear and try to take the CentOS space (e. g. Rocky Linux). If/when one of them becomes important enough, support will be added. Of course what's implemented (CentOS 6, 7, 8) will remain, there is no reason to remove it.

As for Uyuni on CentOS and the new for a new LTS Linux, I think you are too pessimistic 🙂
  • If you need a new free LTS Linux, I suggest openSUSE Leap
  • If what you need is a new no-cost LTS RHEL clone, then there are already options and there will be more: Springdale Linux (by Princeton University), Oracle Linux, Rocky Linux (by one of the original founders of CentOS), etc
  • If you want to pursue Uyuni on Debian, go for it. I can even help (I used to be a Debian developer). It was actually one of the projects we proposed for Google Summer of Code and one student applied for it but he did not get the slot:
    https://github.com/uyuni-project/uyuni/issues/2009



Thank you

Pau Garcia Quiles
SUSE Manager Product Owner & Technical Project Manager
Phone: +34 91 048 7632
SUSE Software Solutions Spain



From: Stefan Bluhm <opensuse.org@bluhm-de.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 8:36 PM
To: uyuni-devel <uyuni-devel@opensuse.org>
Subject: Uyuni port to RHEL8 - Impact of the CentOS 8 announcement.
 
Hello all,

Today, the CentOS Project announced that it will conclude their CentOS 8 activities by end of 2021 and focus on CentOS Stream instead. [1]

This directly has an impact on my plans for migrating Uyuni to work on RHEL 8 as I will not be migrating my servers to CentOS 8 anymore. I am now looking for a new LTS Linux version for me.

I will complete the enablement of all the builds in OBS for CentOS (aim by EOY).
Depending how I feel, I might take on the challenge to get the Java applications to run as well. But that would probably be about it.

As this announcement is pretty recent, I am sure you also did not have time to put any thoughts into how Uyuni should progress on alternative Linux distributions or how CentOS will live in OBS.

Can you please share your thoughts on the direction of Uyuni and RHEL8/CentOS? Or maybe Ubuntu LTS or other LTS distributions? I would then see if/how I can re-focus my efforts.

Please keep the discussions Uyuni focussed. A discussion on the best OS in the world is not intended.

Thank you and best wishes,

Stefan


[1] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
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