[opensuse-buildservice] %clean section in rpm packages in OBS

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Joop Boonen

23 Dec 2011 23 Dec '11

21:25

All, I have a question lately I see spec files that have been changed with the remark (cf. specfile guidelines). The %clean section has been removed for example, this doesn't feel right to me. Does anyone know something about the cf. specfile guidelines? Did I miss something? Regards, Joop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

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Adrian Schröter

23 Dec 23 Dec

21:29

Am Freitag, 23. Dezember 2011, 22:25:34 schrieb Joop Boonen:

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All,

I have a question lately I see spec files that have been changed with the remark (cf. specfile guidelines).

The %clean section has been removed for example, this doesn't feel right to me.

Does anyone know something about the cf. specfile guidelines? Did I miss something?

AFAIK the newer rpms do default to the standard cleanup when %clean is missing. -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE Linux Products GmbH email: adrian@suse.de -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Nelson Marques

22:25

With RPM 4.9+ you no longer require the %clean section, it's done automatically. There's the new %check section amongst other things... Newer versions of RPM shouldn't require either the %defattr(-,root,root,-) as they should be doing it by default... and if things are like in Fedora, the BuildRoot should be handled automatically also (not sure if implemented on OBS). NM 2011/12/23 Joop Boonen :

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All,

I have a question lately I see spec files that have been changed with the remark (cf. specfile guidelines).

The %clean section has been removed for example, this doesn't feel right to me.

Does anyone know something about the cf. specfile guidelines? Did I miss something?

Regards,

Joop.

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

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Joop Boonen

22:49

Hi Nelson, This sounds great. Does anyone know if a wiki page will be created / updated about how spec files should look like? As I look at your reply, I'm thinking about SLE(S|D)10 and maybe even SLE(S|D)11 they won't be handling a missing %clean correctly as their rpm is 4.4.2. So I wonder if it's a good idea to remove %clean now? Regards, Joop. On Fri, December 23, 2011 11:25 pm, Nelson Marques wrote:

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With RPM 4.9+ you no longer require the %clean section, it's done automatically. There's the new %check section amongst other things... Newer versions of RPM shouldn't require either the %defattr(-,root,root,-) as they should be doing it by default... and if things are like in Fedora, the BuildRoot should be handled automatically also (not sure if implemented on OBS).

NM

2011/12/23 Joop Boonen :

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All,

I have a question lately I see spec files that have been changed with the remark (cf. specfile guidelines).

The %clean section has been removed for example, this doesn't feel right to me.

Does anyone know something about the cf. specfile guidelines? Did I miss something?

Regards,

Joop.

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

-- Nelson Marques

/* http://www.marques.so Â nmo.marques@gmail.com */

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Ismail Donmez

23:03

New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] %clean section in rpm packages in OBS

On 12/23/2011 11:49 PM, Joop Boonen wrote:

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Hi Nelson,

This sounds great. Does anyone know if a wiki page will be created / updated about how spec files should look like?

As I look at your reply, I'm thinking about SLE(S|D)10 and maybe even SLE(S|D)11 they won't be handling a missing %clean correctly as their rpm is 4.4.2.

So I wonder if it's a good idea to remove %clean now?

Yes its a good idea, OBS handles it itself. Regards. -- Ismail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Joop Boonen

23:46

New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] %clean section in rpm packages in OBS

On Sat, December 24, 2011 12:03 am, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 12/23/2011 11:49 PM, Joop Boonen wrote:

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Hi Nelson,

This sounds great. Does anyone know if a wiki page will be created / updated about how spec files should look like?

As I look at your reply, I'm thinking about SLE(S|D)10 and maybe even SLE(S|D)11 they won't be handling a missing %clean correctly as their rpm is 4.4.2.

So I wonder if it's a good idea to remove %clean now?

Yes its a good idea, OBS handles it itself.

But what if someone uses a srpm package for SLED/SLES10 and builds this one locally via rpmbuild won't this cause problems?

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Regards.

-- Ismail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Regards, Joop. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Nelson Marques

24 Dec 24 Dec

18:59

New subject: [opensuse-packaging] Re: [opensuse-buildservice] %clean section in rpm packages in OBS

I don't know on SUSE how it happens, I don't have a SLE license to test... But from my experience with Red Hat Enterprise Linux if you build a SRPM with RPM 4.9 (ex: Fedora 16) and try to rebuild it with 'rpmbuild --rebuild' or mock, it doesn't allow you to because db versioning blows up. I think people are making a huge fuss without being really required... Look, here's the real deal: 1. Having the %clean section doesn't hurt, for old systems (where it is actually required) or new ones (rpm > 4.8); 2. If you are a syntax lover and love to complicate things you can use conditionals, for example: # -- this should cut the slack if 0%{?suse_version} =< 1140 || 0%{rhel} < 6 || 0%{?fedora} < 15 %clean rm -rf %{buildroot} %endif 3. If you build only for recent systems, lets say openSUSE 12.1 or Factory, then you don't need clean... For all the rest you do need it. Find the best solution (maybe conditionals ?). NM 2011/12/23 Joop Boonen :

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On Sat, December 24, 2011 12:03 am, Ismail Donmez wrote:

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On 12/23/2011 11:49 PM, Joop Boonen wrote:

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Hi Nelson,

This sounds great. Does anyone know if a wiki page will be created / updated about how spec files should look like?

As I look at your reply, I'm thinking about SLE(S|D)10 and maybe even SLE(S|D)11 they won't be handling a missing %clean correctly as their rpm is 4.4.2.

So I wonder if it's a good idea to remove %clean now?

Yes its a good idea, OBS handles it itself.

But what if someone uses a srpm package for SLED/SLES10 and builds this one locally via rpmbuild won't this cause problems?

...
Regards.

-- Ismail Dönmez - openSUSE Booster SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Regards,

Joop.

Nelson Marques

18:54

You only can remove %clean if RPM > 4.8. If your version of RPM is lower, you need to have that section. NM 2011/12/23 Joop Boonen :

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Hi Nelson,

This sounds great. Does anyone know if a wiki page will be created / updated about how spec files should look like?

As I look at your reply, I'm thinking about SLE(S|D)10 and maybe even SLE(S|D)11 they won't be handling a missing %clean correctly as their rpm is 4.4.2.

So I wonder if it's a good idea to remove %clean now?

Regards,

Joop.

On Fri, December 23, 2011 11:25 pm, Nelson Marques wrote:

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With RPM 4.9+ you no longer require the %clean section, it's done automatically. There's the new %check section amongst other things... Newer versions of RPM shouldn't require either the %defattr(-,root,root,-) as they should be doing it by default... and if things are like in Fedora, the BuildRoot should be handled automatically also (not sure if implemented on OBS).

NM

2011/12/23 Joop Boonen :

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All,

I have a question lately I see spec files that have been changed with the remark (cf. specfile guidelines).

The %clean section has been removed for example, this doesn't feel right to me.

Does anyone know something about the cf. specfile guidelines? Did I miss something?

Regards,

Joop.

-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

-- Nelson Marques

/* http://www.marques.so nmo.marques@gmail.com */

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