On 2007-02-16 13:19:51 +0100, Dirk Stoecker wrote:

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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my home:cthiel1 project has quite some FUSE (and related) packages. So I thought, it might make sense to start a FUSE project. Any naming suggestions?

A general problem I have with the projects: Why are there so many?

If I need to have dozens of repositories in my yast2 installation list something is wrong for me. Why e.g. different game subcategories? Wouldn't be one game category better?

For me a better approach would be to have a few central repositories which e.g. link to the packages in the home projects (in case of one maintainer per package) or contain a package.

i would call it the packman syndrom. you just want mp3... but by adding the packman repos and just run smart upgrade ... you get tons of other updated libraries. And sometimes it can break your system. While i agree that we shouldnt split that much. i still think we should split it in different repositories when needed. Christoph: what do you think about a general filesystems project? darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-02-16 13:35:49 +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote:

On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:30:48PM +0100, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

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Christoph: what do you think about a general filesystems project?

What else, except FUSE related stuff would go there? But generally I'm fine with it!

tools for filesystems + kmps (squashfs comes to mind.) darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:41:49PM +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote:

On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:39:20PM +0100, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

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On 2007-02-16 13:35:49 +0100, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:30:48PM +0100, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

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Christoph: what do you think about a general filesystems project?

What else, except FUSE related stuff would go there? But generally I'm fine with it!

tools for filesystems + kmps (squashfs comes to mind.)

Sounds good -- name / namespace?

I'v now created a "filesystems" project. Currently it contains all FUSE-related packages including fuse itself. They are just linked packages (to openSUSE:Factory), i.e. they get updated once updated packages are being checked into Factory. Packages will be available from http://software.opensuse.org/download/filesystems/ Best, Christoph -- Christoph Thiel, Tech. Project Management, Research & Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-02-22 21:02:56 +0100, Richard Bos wrote:

Would it possible to add ntfs-3g to this repository too? According to this article http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=17327 it's based on fuse.

sure. do you want to start the package?:) darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org

Hi, Luckily, we've already got a 3rd party repo with the ntfs-3g package. http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-jengelh/SUSE-10.2/ Btw, I notice that in the fuse spec file we have the configure option --disable-kernel-module, which means those fuse packages will not work with the ntfs-3g driver. The ntfs-3g requires a fuse kernel module >= 2.6.0 which the openSUSE default kernel failed to contain. Could we fix that? So ntfs-3g users don't have to compile a fuse kernel module. Regards, Thruth --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org

On 2/23/07, Richard Bos wrote:

You stated "The ntfs-3g requires a fuse kernel module >= 2.6.0 which the openSUSE default kernel failed to contain". Which is not true... I think you wanted to write "fuse kernel module >= 2.6.20", isn't it?

-- Richard

Well, the 10.2's 2.6.18.2-default kernel contains the FUSE kernel module version older than 2.6.0, although FUSE package for openSUSE 10.2 is 2.6.0. It's now the situation that the FUSE library meets the

=2.6.0 requirement while the FUSE kernel module doesn't.

So, compiling an ntfs-3g driver on openSUSE 10.2 is ok with fuse-devel installed. However, using the driver would encounter an error saying "WARNING: Deficient FUSE kernel module detected". The solution is recompile FUSE with --enable-kernel-module which would provide a new FUSE kernel module. Anyway, this is what I did. And newer kernels (>=2.6.19??) will save you from the trouble. I guess that they merged the relatively newer FUSE code into the mainline. Regards, Thruth --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-02-23 19:05:42 +0100, andreas.hanke@gmx-topmail.de wrote:

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Would it possible to add ntfs-3g to this repository too? According to this article http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=17327 it's based on fuse.

Just FYI, I have packaged ntfs-3g in my home project.

Feel free to use/link it for whatever you like.

i would prefer: osc copypac home:andreashanke ntfs-3g filesystems afterwards you can delete it in the home project. you automaticaly get permissions to edit it in filesystems this can be either done by christoph or me. would this be ok for you? darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org

On 2007-02-23 19:20:52 +0100, Marcus Rueckert wrote:

Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:20:52 +0100 From: Marcus Rueckert Subject: Re: [opensuse-buildservice] FUSE project? To: andreas.hanke@gmx-topmail.de Cc: opensuse-buildservice@opensuse.org

On 2007-02-23 19:05:42 +0100, andreas.hanke@gmx-topmail.de wrote:

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Would it possible to add ntfs-3g to this repository too? According to this article http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=17327 it's based on fuse.

Just FYI, I have packaged ntfs-3g in my home project.

Feel free to use/link it for whatever you like.

i would prefer:

osc copypac home:andreashanke ntfs-3g filesystems

afterwards you can delete it in the home project. you automaticaly get permissions to edit it in filesystems

this can be either done by christoph or me.

would this be ok for you?

done. i did a small modification: s/pkg-config/pkgconfig/ for the compat with 10.0 darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org

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On 16-02-2007 at 14:30, Marcus Rueckert wrote: i would call it the packman syndrom. you just want mp3... but by adding the packman repos and just run smart upgrade ... you get tons of other updated libraries. And sometimes it can break your system.

While i agree that we shouldnt split that much. i still think we should split it in different repositories when needed.

That brings me back to a suggestion I already gave once... but somehow got lost. For the example for games: it would be nice if you could subscribe to games:/action, games:/adventure all by single.. but there should also be the option just to subscribe to games If THIS addition could be given to the BS, it would truly improve the whole system. About the PM-Syndrome: you're absolutely right; that's also why I avoid putting that one (and guru) in my installations. For these few libs I need for MP3, I prefer downloading the required RPMs one by one and install them. I experianced once that by ALSA system got broken by PM. And was quiet a hassle to bring it back (ok: PM fixed it after a while with new RPMs too..) Dominique --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+help@opensuse.org