Hi,
After the discussion from last month around the discontinued distribution handling, here's a proposal how to handle them in future.
"Discontinued distributions" are the distributions, which receive no regular security updates anymore.
These distributions stay accessible below DISCONTINUED name space. This means SUSE:SL-10.0 is accessible as DISCONTINUED:SUSE:SL-10.0 for example.
We have currently the following distributions below DISCONTINUED names space:
SUSE Linux 10.0 SUSE Linux 10.1 Fedora 6 Mandriva 2006
We will remove the official projects and all repositories building against them in two weeks (if we are not forced to do it earlier due to disc storage problems).
The official 10.1 ftp tree from ftp.opensuse.org will get removed end of the year.
If you want to keep building against these, you need to modify your project configuration replacing the project name of the path tag.
Please keep in mind that the quota system will disable your whole project in case you reach quota setting.
Also important, using discontinued distro means that: * Installing a package might not be possible because dependencies can not get solved (due to the fact that distro installation repo disappeared from the servers as well) * Using the repositories should not be done from a system connected to the internet.
thanks adrian
PS: we are again at > 95% disk usage, we will increase the disk space again, but we should remove all not necessary repositories to keep our resource for the really often downloaded stuff. Thanks a lot for your help.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Adrian Schröter wrote:
After the discussion from last month around the discontinued distribution handling, here's a proposal how to handle them in future.
"Discontinued distributions" are the distributions, which receive no regular security updates anymore.
These distributions stay accessible below DISCONTINUED name space. This means SUSE:SL-10.0 is accessible as DISCONTINUED:SUSE:SL-10.0 for example.
We have currently the following distributions below DISCONTINUED names space:
SUSE Linux 10.0 SUSE Linux 10.1 Fedora 6 Mandriva 2006
We will remove the official projects and all repositories building against them in two weeks (if we are not forced to do it earlier due to disc storage problems).
The official 10.1 ftp tree from ftp.opensuse.org will get removed end of the year.
Your suggestions sounds good.
Will it be accessible through the DISCONTINUED:SUSE:SL-10.1 or 10.0 repository tree then? This would allow to use the old systems as they are used now, but everybody would explicitely need to select a "DISCONTINUED" path.
Ciao
On Dienstag, 10. Juni 2008, Adrian Schröter wrote:
Please keep in mind that the quota system will disable your whole project in case you reach quota setting.
And the quota is?
PS: we are again at > 95% disk usage, we will increase the disk space again, but we should remove all not necessary repositories to keep our resource for the really often downloaded stuff. Thanks a lot for your help.
1) Is disk space really such a problem? IMO it shouldn't be such a big deal to add some Terabyte to buildservice server(s).
2) What's 'really often downloaded stuff'? Since statistics are not working anymore since nearly a year, nobody knows how often a package is downloaded. Is nobody working on this important feature?
Danny
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 12:32:46 Danny Kukawka wrote:
On Dienstag, 10. Juni 2008, Adrian Schröter wrote:
Please keep in mind that the quota system will disable your whole project in case you reach quota setting.
And the quota is?
The quota system is not part of 1.0, but will be there in 1.1 release.
PS: we are again at > 95% disk usage, we will increase the disk space again, but we should remove all not necessary repositories to keep our resource for the really often downloaded stuff. Thanks a lot for your help.
- Is disk space really such a problem? IMO it shouldn't be such a big deal
to add some Terabyte to buildservice server(s).
Yes it is. But another issue is also that we need to keep up with the build hosts in addition to that. As long people just rebuild again in the home project without real need we will keep disk space problems. Also keep not anymore building packages for old distros does not make really sense.
In addition to that we do need also mirrors and backup for at least some parts of it.
- What's 'really often downloaded stuff'? Since statistics are not
working anymore since nearly a year, nobody knows how often a package is downloaded. Is nobody working on this important feature?
Yes, we are busy with other and more important stuff since a while.
bye adrian
Hi Adrian,
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:40:21AM +0200, Adrian Schröter wrote:
After the discussion from last month around the discontinued distribution handling, here's a proposal how to handle them in future.
"Discontinued distributions" are the distributions, which receive no regular security updates anymore.
These distributions stay accessible below DISCONTINUED name space. This means SUSE:SL-10.0 is accessible as DISCONTINUED:SUSE:SL-10.0 for example.
Sounds good!
Thanks, Peter
Danny Kukawka wrote:
On Dienstag, 10. Juni 2008, Adrian Schröter wrote:
PS: we are again at > 95% disk usage, we will increase the disk space again, but we should remove all not necessary repositories to keep our resource for the really often downloaded stuff. Thanks a lot for your help.
FWIW a feature that would allow me to significantly reduce my disk and processor consumption on OBS would be a fully-functioning web-based interface for turning off and on different repositories. I always get this error:
ERROR Your flag configuration seems to be too complex to be saved through this interface. Please use OSC.
But I don't use OSC, so I tend to just let the builds fail...
Cheers JP
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Hello,
on Dienstag, 24. Juni 2008, John Pye wrote: ...
FWIW a feature that would allow me to significantly reduce my disk and processor consumption on OBS would be a fully-functioning web-based interface for turning off and on different repositories. I always get this error:
ERROR Your flag configuration seems to be too complex to be saved through this interface. Please use OSC.
But I don't use OSC, so I tend to just let the builds fail...
You were probably hit by bug 330746 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=330746
I'm afraid you'll have to edit your project and package metadata with osc to fix this...
Remove all references to repositiories that no longer exist in your home project. Afterwards, you should be able to use the web interface again.
Hints: osc meta -e prj home:whatever to edit the project config osc meta -e pkg home:whatever packagename to edit the package config (remove the -e switch if you only want to look at the config)
Regards,
Christian Boltz
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