On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 22:11 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
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- Aniruddha firstname.lastname@example.org [10-31-07 20:31]:
For Gentoo/FreeBSD/Debian/Ubuntu/ there aren't additional repositories necessary since these distributions maintain 14000-22000 packages themselves. openSUSE on the other hand forces you to use 3r party repositories to get basic functionality working (see http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/10.3 ).
But you are not 'forced' to use anything. Basic functionality is provided.
And you don't have to trust the packager, you trust the distribution and it's security policy. And don't forget packages passes many hands before ending up in the stable tree. In Debian/Ubuntu it goes from Experimental to Unstable to Testing to Stable. I can assure that when it arrives at Stable you can trust it for 100%. Gentoo/FreeBSD is the same, they have a very, very long testing period for new packages finally arrive in the stable tree.
Compare this to the openSUSE buildservice where everyone can get an account start a repo and wreck havoc because there aren't any safety precautions.
"Something" must be *terribly* wrong somewhere as no "problems" I am aware have been made public.
That is no argument. Right now apparently openSUSE has a big gaping security hole which can be exploited in the future. And who should make us aware of "problems" when none checks the repos' anyways?
I understand your concern, you have NO trust of anyone. I believe there is a word for that, but....
Trust is no replacement of good security policies.
btw, you have made *many* posts recently critical of the openSUSE distribution and the way that things are done. Is there *anything* you find *right* about openSUSE distributions? Because, if you cannot find anything *right*, one wonders why you remain!
Despite being off topic I will address your argument. I regard openSUSE as one of the finest distributions on the market. I plan on actively supporting it through my company. However before doing so I must be absolute certain of same aspects of which a regular user might care less.
The fact that I ask questions or even criticize some aspect is because I love to see openSUSE evolve into something even better. That's why I offered to start a Dutch mailing list, help on the Dutch wiki and file extensive bugreports for problems I encounter.