[Bug 750476] New: second stage: ask for update run before downloading metadata
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c0 Summary: second stage: ask for update run before downloading metadata Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 12.1 Version: Final Platform: x86-64 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Installation AssignedTo: yast2-maintainers@suse.de ReportedBy: ohering@suse.com QAContact: jsrain@suse.com Found By: Outsourced Testing Blocker: --- In the second stage of a fresh install the steps for update are currently like this: check network connection download release-notes download repository metadata ask to run or skip online update Downloading the repository metadate will delay a fresh install for a long time on a slow internet connection. Even if a proxy is configured in second stage, the proxy will not really help because download.opensuse.org redirects to many mirrors which invalidates most requests from previous installations. Therefore I request to change the flow to first ask wether the online update should run. If Skip is selected, just write the .repo files in /etc/zypper/repos.d and continue with installation. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c1 Thomas Fehr <fehr@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|yast2-maintainers@suse.de |jsuchome@suse.com --- Comment #1 from Thomas Fehr <fehr@suse.com> 2012-03-05 17:47:21 UTC --- I am not sure who exactly needs to decide if this is feasible and who needs to do what. Assigning to Jiri as maintainer of online update. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c2 Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |coolo@suse.com --- Comment #2 from Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome@suse.com> 2012-03-06 08:49:43 UTC --- Hm, but installing extra packages might be needed anyway in second stage, eg. during hardware configuration. And you'll need to run the online update eventually some time. Coolo, what do you think? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c3 --- Comment #3 from Olaf Hering <ohering@suse.com> 2012-03-06 10:03:05 CET --- (In reply to comment #2)
Hm, but installing extra packages might be needed anyway in second stage, e.g. during hardware configuration. And you'll need to run the online update eventually some time.
I run sed on the .repo files to point them to a fixed mirror, which in turn is already cached in the proxy from earlier runs. So far, in my environment, extra packages were not required, would they come from an external repo or from the used install media? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c4 --- Comment #4 from Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome@suse.com> 2012-03-06 09:05:48 UTC --- (In reply to comment #3)
So far, in my environment, extra packages were not required, would they come from an external repo or from the used install media?
I mean 'they could', AFAIK for some specific requirements during hardware configuration. Or maybe during authentication config, to install some new pam modules or whatever. But usually nothing is needed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c5 --- Comment #5 from Olaf Hering <ohering@suse.com> 2012-03-06 10:12:09 CET --- (In reply to comment #4)
(In reply to comment #3)
So far, in my environment, extra packages were not required, would they come from an external repo or from the used install media?
I mean 'they could', AFAIK for some specific requirements during hardware configuration. Or maybe during authentication config, to install some new pam modules or whatever. But usually nothing is needed.
Yes, yp-tools, autofs and other packages can be installed on demand. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c6 Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW CC| |coolo@suse.com InfoProvider|coolo@suse.com | --- Comment #6 from Stephan Kulow <coolo@suse.com> 2012-07-18 11:34:06 CEST --- as soon as you need extra packages, you better get them from update repos if they are there. So I see your point, but I don't think what you're suggesting is a good compromise. I would go for WONTFIX - it's bad, but not *that* bad. slow connections won't become faster after installation either, no? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c7 Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome@suse.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Comment #7 from Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome@suse.com> 2012-07-18 09:36:22 UTC --- I agree -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750476#c8 --- Comment #8 from Olaf Hering <ohering@suse.com> 2012-07-18 16:10:05 CEST --- (In reply to comment #6)
I would go for WONTFIX - it's bad, but not *that* bad. slow connections won't become faster after installation either, no?
As soon as packages are cached the download will be very fast. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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