[Bug 348294] New: openSUSE 10.3 needs too much memory
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 Summary: openSUSE 10.3 needs too much memory Product: openSUSE 10.3 Version: Final Platform: i686 OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Other AssignedTo: bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com ReportedBy: Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- openSUSE 10.3 needs significantly more memory (>650MB) than 10.2. Some applications have suspicious high memory usage. Here are my top (virtual size) processes: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 4213 wxu09524 18 0 224m 58m 14m S 0.3 17.0 18:58.61 seamonkey-bin 2623 root 15 0 181m 35m 7736 S 5.1 10.2 398:32.81 X 3996 wxu09524 18 0 147m 11m 7204 S 0.3 3.3 0:44.46 nautilus 1958 root 15 0 138m 1028 764 S 0.0 0.3 0:01.56 nscd 4082 wxu09524 18 0 119m 9576 6896 S 0.0 2.7 0:11.79 nm-applet 4074 wxu09524 15 0 107m 10m 5820 S 1.2 3.1 9:33.92 main-menu 3994 wxu09524 21 0 101m 8612 5436 S 0.0 2.5 0:45.93 gnome-panel 4073 wxu09524 15 0 100m 5244 3076 S 0.0 1.5 0:33.46 mixer_applet2 4146 wxu09524 16 0 83752 212 80 S 0.0 0.1 0:12.04 evolution-data- 26263 wxu09524 15 0 77276 31m 18m S 13.7 9.1 1:18.46 k3b 4044 wxu09524 17 0 63432 2240 1288 S 0.0 0.6 53:12.00 gnome-cups-icon 4069 wxu09524 18 0 51036 3952 2416 S 0.0 1.1 0:13.01 tomboy 4025 wxu09524 18 0 49508 3808 2336 S 0.0 1.1 0:09.06 beagle-search 4071 wxu09524 18 0 43928 7476 4120 S 0.0 2.1 5:18.49 intlclock-apple 14714 wxu09524 39 19 42136 696 604 S 0.0 0.2 1:17.81 beagled-helper For example, why would the mixer applet need 10MB virtual memory? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User mtgordon@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c1 Mark Gordon <mtgordon@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mtgordon@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de --- Comment #1 from Mark Gordon <mtgordon@novell.com> 2007-12-13 15:15:16 MST --- mixer_applet2 is using 100 MB of virtual memory. Of that, 3076 kB is shared libraries. On my machine (with similar VIRT results), mixer_applet2 is using 3700 kB for DATA. RES is generally a more useful metric than VIRT. Looking at your output, the biggest offenders seem to be: 58m seamonkey-bin: Not launched by default, and memory use depends strongly on patterns of usage. Not necessarily an accurate reflection of the OS itself. 35m X: This includes video memory, which doesn't affect main memory and can't really be used for much else. Don't lose sleep over this. 31m k3b: Again, not launched by default. I can understand why an app that does so much I/O might want some memory for caching. Can you repeat this without any apps (seamonkey, k3b) running, and with the full output of top? It's not clear from here where you're getting the 650MB figure, for example. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c2 --- Comment #2 from Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> 2007-12-17 00:43:41 MST --- (In reply to comment #1 from Mark Gordon)
Can you repeat this without any apps (seamonkey, k3b) running, and with the full output of top? It's not clear from here where you're getting the 650MB
An OS that's not running any apps not not that useful, nor representative for resource usage. OK, I only ran seamonkey (Using a Internet browser seems quite standard usage these days). Here's an updates top. Even the "RES" seems a bit high (e.g. 17MB for an applet that stores tiny notes; complete OS/2 needed less memory): PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 4061 xxx12345 22 7 144m 59m 9872 S 5.3 17.4 1:00.41 beagled 4011 xxx12345 18 0 143m 15m 10m S 0.0 4.6 0:12.13 nautilus 3680 root 25 0 138m 988 760 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.32 nscd 4215 xxx12345 15 0 133m 53m 18m S 0.0 15.6 2:06.77 seamonkey-bin 4091 xxx12345 17 0 119m 13m 10m S 0.0 3.9 0:02.93 nm-applet 4072 xxx12345 19 0 107m 13m 9624 S 0.7 4.0 0:10.86 main-menu 4010 xxx12345 15 0 101m 12m 9456 S 0.0 3.6 0:05.46 gnome-panel 4078 xxx12345 15 0 100m 11m 8700 S 0.0 3.2 0:02.21 mixer_applet2 4154 xxx12345 25 0 99176 13m 4552 S 0.0 3.9 0:13.05 evolution-data- 2840 root 15 0 93504 16m 6268 S 1.7 4.9 2:02.94 X 4076 xxx12345 18 0 67680 12m 9668 S 0.0 3.6 0:08.54 intlclock-apple 4068 xxx12345 16 0 61944 6660 5684 S 1.7 1.9 0:24.74 gnome-cups-icon 4074 xxx12345 17 0 58780 17m 12m S 0.0 5.0 0:09.33 tomboy 4040 xxx12345 15 0 49596 15m 12m S 0.0 4.6 0:05.77 beagle-search 5198 xxx12345 39 19 46600 18m 8548 S 0.0 5.4 1:08.36 beagled-helper -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c3 Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de | --- Comment #3 from Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> 2008-01-22 02:16:03 MST --- Today after connecting an USB stick and viewing the contents: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 4003 xxx12345 20 0 391m 233m 8200 S 22.0 68.1 0:38.41 nautilus Nautilus using 391MB of memory to display the contents of a directory!!!?? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User mtgordon@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c4 Mark Gordon <mtgordon@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de --- Comment #4 from Mark Gordon <mtgordon@novell.com> 2008-01-22 07:13:31 MST --- You still haven't answered the original question. Restoring NEEDINFO. The apparent nautilus issue probably justifies its own bug. My guess is that there's a file on that USB stick that is triggering some sort of pathological thumbnailing behavior. By divide-and-conquer, you should be able to figure out which is the offending file fairly easily. Please attach that file to a new bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c5 --- Comment #5 from Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> 2008-01-23 01:44:12 MST --- Here's a process list without seamonkey (See my comment #2 also); the system is using 600MB with no real application started: top - 09:33:14 up 5:34, 2 users, load average: 2.13, 5.50, 4.80 Tasks: 116 total, 2 running, 112 sleeping, 2 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.6%us, 19.9%sy, 50.0%ni, 0.3%id, 26.6%wa, 1.0%hi, 0.6%si, 0.0%st Mem: 351284k total, 319760k used, 31524k free, 38076k buffers Swap: 1052248k total, 300836k used, 751412k free, 154552k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 6314 xxx12345 39 19 167m 10m 1176 S 0.0 3.0 18:00.49 beagled-helper 4040 xxx12345 22 7 141m 6480 1108 S 0.0 1.8 8:04.96 beagled 3677 root 18 0 138m 760 532 S 0.0 0.2 0:01.02 nscd 4003 xxx12345 15 0 119m 8600 4656 S 0.0 2.4 0:56.35 nautilus 2581 root 15 0 98392 14m 3868 S 1.0 4.1 46:53.08 X 4072 xxx12345 17 0 94048 1572 904 S 0.0 0.4 0:02.11 nm-applet 4151 xxx12345 18 0 91836 280 120 S 0.0 0.1 0:12.71 evolution-data- 4076 xxx12345 15 0 82168 5916 2820 S 0.0 1.7 1:06.75 main-menu 4002 xxx12345 15 0 75656 6360 4020 S 0.0 1.8 0:19.84 gnome-panel 4082 xxx12345 15 0 74716 2084 1260 S 0.0 0.6 0:04.77 mixer_applet2 6203 xxx12345 15 0 68992 5540 3248 S 0.0 1.6 0:04.52 notification-da 4055 xxx12345 17 0 62376 2468 1368 S 0.0 0.7 3:45.72 gnome-cups-icon 4078 xxx12345 17 0 58940 2280 1636 S 0.0 0.6 0:09.81 tomboy 4080 xxx12345 18 0 50296 3844 2216 S 0.0 1.1 0:27.78 intlclock-apple 4032 xxx12345 16 0 49604 2312 1484 S 0.0 0.7 0:05.94 beagle-search 4944 xxx12345 39 19 45356 696 592 S 0.0 0.2 0:20.16 beagled-helper 2485 xxx12345 39 19 44856 7180 3408 S 0.0 2.0 0:09.30 beagled-helper The list is sorted by virtual size. Regarding comment #4: Nautilus will need a debug option to help searching for the problem. You cannot be serious with your suggestion. I want to USE the system (it's FINAL after all), not DEBUG it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User aj@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c6 Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de | --- Comment #6 from Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> 2008-02-22 06:52:40 MST --- Info was provided. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 Andreas Jaeger <aj@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |bnc-team-gnome@forge.provo.novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User jpr@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c7 JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |federico@novell.com, michael.meeks@novell.com --- Comment #7 from JP Rosevear <jpr@novell.com> 2008-03-29 10:28:39 MST --- Virtual memory is very deceiving because of mmap'ed files (primarily the icon cache). That are not actually in memory. Michael or Federico can explain it better than I can. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User mmeeks@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c8 Michael Meeks <mmeeks@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mmeeks@novell.com Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de --- Comment #8 from Michael Meeks <mmeeks@novell.com> 2008-03-29 14:15:01 MST --- Hi Ulrich, so - ~useful memory usage is (approximately) RSS - SHR; making eg. tomboy 2280-1638 => 650k (if I got the units right ;-). Wrt to debugging, sure - if you file a bug, presumably you want it fixed ;-) if so - we need help to find out what went wrong: this is not the behavior we experience (needless to say). Is it specific to this USB stick ? is there a large root directory on the stick ? if not, can you copy half of the files to another directory, and repeat [ killall -9 nautilus in between to reset memory use reliably ]. After halving the set repeatedly, you should end up with a set of files that cause the memory explosion. Failing that, running a tool like 'memprof' on nautilus may help. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User federico@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c9 --- Comment #9 from Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> 2008-03-31 17:08:04 MST --- Can we get a directory listing for your USB stick? My guess is that you have a bunch of thumbnail-able files there, and the Nautilus process becomes big when reading all those thumbnails. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c10 --- Comment #10 from Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> 2008-04-01 00:24:31 MST --- Contents of memory sticks change over time. While looking whether the problem is still current, I also realized that the evince-thumbnailer process (most likely responsible for creating thumbnails for PDF files) takes a lot of CPU time (>95%) and is quite slow. Not that I have that many PDF files on the stick however: 4444-1.pdf EVA-1-4000-LTU.pdf la____xr.pdf dcf.PDF EVA-2-4000-BC-CA.pdf N4378.pdf dng_spec.pdf EVMS User Guide.pdf PermPasswordRequestForm.pdf Emacs-22.1-refcard.pdf Exif2-2.PDF SoloFormat.pdf EVA-1-4000-BC-CA.pdf gimp-2.4.pdf It also seems that evince-thumbnailer is using GhostScript to generate thumbnails of PostScript files. That's really not performant. There's one instance: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 20579 looser 25 0 21416 9692 3464 R 80.5 2.8 1:49.59 gs -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User cthiel@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c11 Christoph Thiel <cthiel@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de | --- Comment #11 from Christoph Thiel <cthiel@novell.com> 2008-04-28 02:34:08 MST --- Information provided in comment #10. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User mmeeks@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c12 Michael Meeks <mmeeks@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|openSUSE 10.3 needs too much memory |nautilus memory leak thumbnailing PDF --- Comment #12 from Michael Meeks <mmeeks@novell.com> 2008-04-28 02:50:30 MST --- Hmm - this bug is really badly formed; it's title is unrelated to any real memory usage: it's mostly based on compound mis-understand of the 'top' output. In comment #3 we actually have a real memory leak bug: which we should split out into a separate bug - and try to reproduce; In comment #10 we have a complaint about the performance of thumbnailing PDF files. Ulrich - any better ideas for thumbnailing PDFs ? :-) [ ultimately, I'm slightly surprised evince is using gs to render anything here - since it can render PDF's itself to a cairo surface - are you certain that 'gs' is not being used by evince to thumbnail Postscript files ? ( if so, it's hard to see how it could do much else ;-) ]. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294 User federico@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=348294#c13 Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #13 from Federico Mena Quintero <federico@novell.com> 2008-08-20 11:55:09 MDT --- Please split this bug into separate ones. Marking as invalid. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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