https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c1 --- Comment #1 from Scott Couston 2011-07-25 23:18:54 UTC --- *** Bug 704797 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704797 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c2 Lukas Ocilka changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO CC| |locilka@suse.com InfoProvider| |nfbrown@suse.com --- Comment #2 from Lukas Ocilka 2011-09-14 09:15:47 UTC --- Neil, is there anything that YaST could do about NFS Client waiting for unreachable NFS Server, e.g. to set a configurable time-out? Is that actually wanted? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c4 --- Comment #4 from Scott Couston 2011-10-10 10:58:03 UTC --- Created an attachment (id=455348) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=455348) Image 1 of 2 Forgive my intrusion her between the discussion of Lukas and Neil. This bug title is about a NON NFS V4. With NFS V4 Yes the Kernel does all the Magic. Neil, on a non NFS V4 we just need a time out of 10 seconds on the boot process and a cron job to reassess if the NFS drive, that was absent is now available, if so; Mount it. When booting there is a time-out for a DHCP IP to come online, why not with NFS NON V4 - Same code. Its not much simpler than that that I would suggest...Luckas your thoughts. Neil, while your looking at Mounts, how about giving NFS Client the ability to find a NFS Server without entering the IP - It has never been possible since 10.0 to use the choose button to find anything - See attached -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c6 Martin Vidner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P4 - Low Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Summary|A NFS Client Boot Process |[yast2-nfs-client] suggest |and Shut-down are both |bg mount option to avoid |Unacceptably Slow (+12 |overlong timeouts |Minutes) in the Absence of | |its NFS Server - NFS NON V4 | Severity|Major |Normal --- Comment #6 from Martin Vidner 2011-10-10 15:33:11 CEST --- Thank you Neil! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c8 --- Comment #8 from Scott Couston 2011-10-10 22:49:21 UTC --- Thanks Neil for your helpful incite. My only hope is that this wait issue get solved. The muchanism to achieve this is yours - Your at he coal face and know whats happening in the future so the fix for this wait issue is at your discretion on how to do so. All users face this issue, but and very few have networks to use most all network services, they dont get reported. This fix is yours to achieve, eloquently via the best method. The user just wants it to work by default using the Yast interface and needs the huge time large to finish. With respect to the Choose Button not working. I have bug reported it since 10.0 more than 10 times with no resolution. Every user knows full well, including myself, that as far as Yast is concerned is a closed shop. User land chatter reflects that user bugs of yast are unlikely to ever be solved, fixed or enhanced - Goes to the logic of the amount of bugs raised about the choose button never working despite the years since 10.1 and many bug reports. Dont ever worry about being rude, I never take anything personally and text is the poorest way, to describe frustrating bugs without seemingly being rude. Its all cool mate! Scott -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c10 --- Comment #10 from Scott Couston 2011-11-30 21:49:22 UTC --- I will attach the yast logs for both NFS client and server. Could you please tell me by return the name and location of the login scrip. Its dreadful that a timeout is displayed on the screen after about 4 minutes, and after the login script reports 'time out' the PC then continues to stall for another 5 minutes. We need an elegant solution to this problem. My LAN has only 8 PC's but image the waste of time on a much larger LAN - This is worse than turn the PC on in the morning and make a coffee....Its more like go away and cook bacon and eggs and toast and eat it before returning to your PC. Can we refine and elegant solution by added NFS Server and Client connections to the kernel and have it make frequent checks to see any NFS Server either new or old that is advertising or has halted. In the same login can we also let the kernel perform checks of NFS Clients which appear as PC's boot and disappear when the PC is halted. I think we need to get rid of sm-notify completely, every time a change is made to it it gets worse with new errors and new problems. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c11 Scott Couston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |mvidner@suse.com --- Comment #11 from Scott Couston 2011-12-20 08:46:01 UTC --- mvidner@suse.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c Scott Couston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |739077 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c Bug 707898 depends on bug 727870, which changed state. Bug 727870 Summary: Every FIND or BROWSE or LOCATE button that is meant to late another PC's Services has never Worked http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727870 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c14 --- Comment #14 from Scott Couston 2012-02-06 10:17:57 UTC --- The other issues I have been testing of late are also 100% reproducible and relate to ANY situation where both or only the NFS Server PC and/or the NFS Client PC have not been totally shutdown when S2RAM and/or S2Disk has been used. Despite the NFS Server being re-established before its NFS Clients, no NFS Server/Client relationship is ever remounted and fails completely. In this situation the NFS Client will hang at sm-notify until the same huge time-out of in excess of 5 minutes has elapsed. In this situation where the PC is left to time-out NO NFS Client services are EVER reinstated. This is as much the fault of the NFS Server as well al its NFS Client. Where both Server and Client are both halted by S2RAM Or S2Disk and then resumed, NO NFS Services what-so-ever are ever re-established. If you need more log data regarding this test please be specific. AJ........Given this new test where NO NFS Services what-so-ever are recreated please reassess the assigned priority...This goes from bad to worse guys...sorry -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c16 Scott Couston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |scott@aphofis.com --- Comment #16 from Scott Couston 2012-03-06 00:26:13 UTC --- Jeff - No problems testing in 12.x as I know this is still an issue for this and dependencies - Is it more helpful to give you log details for dependencies before I upgrade the software version...Let me know..Thanks mate:-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c Bug 707898 depends on bug 727870, which changed state. Bug 727870 Summary: Every FIND or BROWSE or LOCATE button that is meant to late another PC's Services has never Worked http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727870 What |Old Value |New Value ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |CLOSED Resolution| |NORESPONSE -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c18 Scott Couston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Kernel |Kernel Version|Final |RC 2 Product|openSUSE 11.3 |openSUSE 12.1 Target Milestone|--- |Final --- Comment #18 from Scott Couston 2012-03-09 06:03:35 UTC --- Same Issue as in 12.1 - The Kernel in 11.3 is the same in 12.1 is it not??? None the less this bug is valid also in 12.1 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c19 Scott Couston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CLOSED Component|Kernel |Kernel Version|RC 2 |Factory Resolution| |FIXED AssignedTo|nfbrown@suse.com |kernel-maintainers@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com Product|openSUSE 12.1 |openSUSE 11.4 --- Comment #19 from Scott Couston 2012-04-24 23:18:00 UTC --- Due to the inordinate problems I have with 12.1 I have reverted back to 11.4 where this problem first started. I am happy to report all issues with NFS sm-notify have been resolved -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c21 Neil Brown changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |scott@aphofis.com --- Comment #21 from Neil Brown 2012-04-30 07:54:59 UTC --- Hi Scott, I must confess that I've lost track of exactly what "This bug" is. You have mentioned problems with booting with resuming from suspend. You've mentioned mount being slow and sm-notify being slow. Maybe these are all all true. But we need to focus to be able to find a solution. So let's focus on: If the NFS Server is not present at NFS client boot PC, it NEVER EVER will mount the NFS Server drive retrospectively. That is correct and by design - there is no bug there. If you want to be able to boot while and NFS server it not available you have two options: 1/ add the 'bg' option in /etc/fstab for the NFS mounts. This will cause 'mount' to continue retrying the mount in the background without holding up the mount process. 2/ use and auto-mounter to only try to mount filesystems one demand. Have you tried one of these? What was the result? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c23 Neil Brown changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO InfoProvider| |scott@aphofis.com --- Comment #23 from Neil Brown 2012-05-06 10:00:14 UTC --- Hi Scott, I cannot help you unless you give details. I ask you a question in Comment #21 - Did you try 1/ or 2/ ? If so, what was the result? If you cannot give clear answers, then I cannot help you. The kernel doesn't call sm-notify. sm-notify runs to tell other hosts that this one has rebooted. It is used to clear out old locking state. It is quite separate from mounting and should not cause any delays. Do you believe sm-notify is causing a delay to boot? If so, what evidence do you have for this? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c25 Scott Couston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|scott@aphofis.com |kernel-maintainers@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com --- Comment #25 from Scott Couston 2012-05-10 11:29:09 UTC --- Jerry and Geoff (forgot Geoff email) - please insert)could you please figure what happening to all these major related bugs..Network drives falling off her and there, or are never there or only there when we (the staff) the boot sequence of each PC - details under as all these issues are about Yast, dont know how 1. the bug was assigned to me and 2. why its not yast as I have been told the kernel attempts NO retrospection connections of past and present as a standard Krone action, but has been left as a kernel issue Can you please let me know what files I can upload so you can see the same. How else can I help you as I have these problems on a production PC?? To put this in a real-time scenario - I have 10 staff who each have a Linux PC, there is a file server that all staff need to save their work on, but not always. - A 10 to 1 File NFS Server waiting until it has booted before the staff can beet their PC. Now all workstations have NFS Servers to the Backup server via NFS which backups the /home directory of each user and the file server. I have a VERY LARGE MAP IN MY OFFICE IN WHICH THE STAFF OR MACHINES NEED TO BOOT IN THE CORRECT ORDER...AND IF ANYONE HAS SUSPEND pc OVER LUNCH TIME THE nfs DRIVE MAY OR MAY NOT COME BACK... Please let me know of what files to upload that hold my login scripts.......they will all be there...Also I separated dependants with previous BUGS ,not because they all suffer the same download probes, but have dependant bug in PMS seems to frighten a lot of analysts...cheers So please I need you to let me know what the archived login script file would want please. bottom line, if you are not going to try to fix it due - priority or something - please just bury this request without email contacts and rename it tinto the impossible home repository -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707898#c27 Scott Couston changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |zcnnnnzc@virginbroadband.co | |m.au Resolution|WONTFIX |FIXED --- Comment #27 from Scott Couston 2012-10-07 05:00:49 UTC --- I can report that this bug has been fixed in 11.4 after applying new online updates. I cannot work out which update fixed this as there are so many that has made 11.4 the most stable in the whole history of opensuse -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.