(In reply to patrick shanahan from comment #13) > (In reply to Simon Lees from comment #12) > > (In reply to patrick shanahan from comment #11) > > > I would be happy to provide information. But I only just found the request > > > for information by checking status of the report. Seems even though I an > > > listed on the cc: list, I have not received any notice.(In reply to Simon > > > Lees from comment #8) > > > > Patrick I guess we need to debug your issue further to work out whats > > > > preventing dbus from closing in this case could you provide the output of > > > > "systemctl status user-XXX.slice" where XXX is your uid? > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, i'll try and replicate this tomorrow, its not what I > > was expecting to see. dbus isn't running in the multi-user.target (which is > > expected if nothing is using it) so nothing should be preventing it from > > running when the graphical target is started. > > > > Just confirming you are running tumbleweed? > > yes, 20170505 > > info may be skewed by having remote ssh access. I can alway trigger the > failure that way. I can open a graphical session from an clean boot w/o any > remote ssh sessions active. > > did you want to see the output w/o the remote session? > > ps: there is a problem with mail, I am not receiving and my addr is listed > in cc I can replicate the problem here so i'll chase it up with upstream to see what we can do about it.