(In reply to Dr. Werner Fink from comment #26) > I'm talking on ssh and VNC connections as well as login on /dev/tty1, not > local X11 display. I know, AFAIU, all these logins/sessions should ensure dbus session running through pam_systemd :-/ > Can you access your keyring (gnome or kwalletd) with login over ssh, VNC or > simply on local console tty1? I can "access" gnome-keyring-daemon on tty1. Also if I `systemctl --user stop dbus.service`, I can see it gets reactivated, i.e. DBus communication works fine. The keyring is locked though (perhaps to lack of pam_gnome_keyring in tty PAM stack). Idea: you see a timeout message, what if you connect to keyring daemon just fine but the unlock prompt displays on X server that you don't see.