Comment # 11 on bug 1231065 from Fxzx mic

(In reply to Stefan Hundhammer from comment #7)
> 
> And inevitably, users get confused what to install; even more so if (like
> you proposed) there are several different GUI front-ends (Qt 5 and Qt 6;
> plus "headless"). They tend to ask in user forums, and the answers tend to
> be inconclusive.
> 
This is not a problem at all. Since you want to compare with Ubuntu, why not
compare with Fedora? Why don't Fedora maintainers worry about their users
asking questions on the forum? Firstly, forums are meant for asking questions,
so you shouldn't worry about users coming to the forum to ask questions.
Secondly, package description information is not just decoration. Finally, if
the user's system is QT5, then install qt5-ui. If it is QT6, then install
qt6-ui. If it is GTK, then there is no need to install anything. As for
headless, it is used for special purposes. If you don't know what it is used
for, then there is no need to install it.

> 
> Good luck finding a voluneer maintainer for a package as complex as this.
> And anyway, given the importance of one of the few FOSS Internet browsers in
> today's IT world, reliable support may be business critical for SUSE, so the
> choice for the main maintainer narrows down to a SUSE employee.
> 
That's not a problem either, I never expect to make immediate changes. It just
always needs someone to point out a better approach. Even if someone implements
my advice after my death, it is something I have left in this world.

> > 
> > You can’t compare your job to excrement to determine which is superior, so
>                                 excrement??
> > such a comparison is pointless.
> 
Yes, snap/ubuntu is excrement.

> 
> "This is more reasonable" is an opinion, not a factual argument.
> 
> So, your implied suggestion is to follow Fedora's example to split up
> Chromium into several subpackages. But you never even once explained what
> you see as the benefits to offset the downsides. This is what is missing in
> this whole discussion.
If you have installed the QT5 dependency and want it to work, you also need the
qt5-wayland package, which is a duplicate on the QT6 system. For the QT6
system, it is the same. As for headless, I will explain below.

(In reply to Stefan Hundhammer from comment #8)
> 
> So, for every tiniest update of the source package (the original tarball as
> well as patches added on top), the version needs to be bumped, which for the
> end user means having to download and update all the installed subpackages
> anyway.
> 
I don't understand. Is it difficult or inappropriate for users to update the
packages they should update?

(In reply to Stefan Hundhammer from comment #9)
> Also, please name some use cases for a chromium-headless package.
> 
For example, automating web pages, scripting, and using it on servers, etc., I
haven't really used it, I just checked its purpose after seeing this name for
the first time.

(In reply to Stefan Hundhammer from comment #10)
> AFAICS our chromium package uses only Qt 5, no Qt 6 and no Gtk.
> 
> >>  % rpm -q --requires chromium | sed -e 's/(.*//' | sort -u | grep -i qt
> >>  libQt5Core.so.5
> >>  libQt5Gui.so.5
> >>  libQt5Widgets.so.5
> 
> >>  % rpm -q --requires chromium | sed -e 's/(.*//' | sort -u | grep -i gtk
> >>
It seems that you haven't learned about the relevant content on your own
besides discussing with me.
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/chromium/c/802b55bba2b87f236e24c2ef0dbc6a8143eaac29

For QT, mandatory dependencies are only caused by a file libqt5_shim.so.
Separating this file will not affect Chromium itself, as Chromium can run
without relying on GTK and QT.
https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/chromium/chromium-qt5-ui/fedora-40-updates.html#files

As for GTK, it is much simpler than Qt. You can use GTK UI by installing GTK
related components, and cannot use it without installation. There are no
mandatory dependencies.