>ok, so the "s" bit was not set before on my tumbleweed installation. >this is what i said. It was not set in the rpm database. It was set in %post by %set_permissions %{_bindir}/su >> You could check your installation log. Maybe this command failed or you set > >where should i look for what? >/var/log/YaST2/y2log? Yes. Please check for possible util-linux %post failure. >> paranoid security profile. > >where can i set this? PERMISSION_SECURITY in /etc/sysconfig/security If you did not touch it, you don't have paranoid more. In this mode, many things don't work as most users want. > /etc/permissions.paranoid: > /usr/bin/su root:root > 0755 >i only have /etc/permissions.local which only has comments, and folder >/etc/permissions.d, which only has 2 files: >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 214 Apr 29 21:27 postfix >-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126 Apr 29 21:27 postfix.paranoid That looks strange. If /etc/permissions.easy does not exist, it will not work. /etc/permissions.easy is part of permissions package, and it contains line: /bin/su root:root 4755 Please try "rpm -V permissions".