Hi Tested as requested using the Nouveau driver however no change observed, black box still present. All apps at 16.12, however 16.08 Ark also exhibited the same behaviour as I was on 5.8.5 LTS and still and had 16.08 apps when I noticed this issue, upgraded to 16.12 but still the same. I hadn't used Ark on 5.8.3 as this a new install (using old home) and went for the 5.8.5 LTS repo after only 24 hours so I don't know if this is present in 5.8.3. I don't fancy downgrading to 5.8.3 to test as I fear something will break from past experience. Any ideas of root causing this would be most welcome. I have a spare AMD 7750 knocking around somewhere I could try but I'm not confident the problem lies with Nvidia. Thanks