Also tried it out. With a global menu the kde5 version is better than the gtk3 one, because with gkt3(-kde5) there are two menubars next to one another. This is not the case with the kde5 vcl. I have another problem with the kde5 plugin: it seems the windowclass is not set correctly. This causes problems with the icons only taskbar and programs grouping. When I start writer and after calc, they are grouped as if the same program. for both the window class is soffice.bin.. Probably something to do with https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119202 The kde bug referred to in that bug provided a work around, but that does not work anymore apparently.