Comment # 5 on bug 1122778 from Simon Lees

(In reply to Fabian Vogt from comment #3)
> (In reply to Simon Lees from comment #2)
> > Having thought on this more, maybe we could make this a bit better but i'm
> > leaning toward more that the x11 patterns should just be hidden, on there
> > own they don't do anything useful other then reduce the list of things the
> > other desktop patterns use. The reason we have the x11 / x11_opt split is
> > for stuff we want on the DVD vs stuff that doesn't fit.
> 
> That's a rather bad reason - it means a DVD install has a different result
> without online repos.
> 
Not really, after the first zypper up the new recommends will be met and the
systems will be back to the same. This is not new behavior the old "unified"
patterns did exactly the same thing with an _opt pattern for stuff that didn't
fit on the dvd. The "x11_opt" pattern is probably now small enough we might be
able to merge it with the x11 pattern, but enhanced_base certainly isn't, it'd
be nice if yast had a way to "join" two patterns and present them as one, or
maybe with kiwi it might be possible to do everything a bit different so we can
merge these patterns but not include the whole pattern on the DVD.

> > For the usecase your suggesting someone should be able to just select the
> > Basesystem pattern then install the package for the desktop they want on
> > top, be it enlightenment, icewm, lxqt etc. or a selection of xfce packages.
> > You should be able to install any desktop without the x11 pattern, if not
> > its a bug in the desktop package.
> 
> Yes - just choosing a single pattern in the "Custom" selection.
> 
> > Currently I think SLES uses the X11 pattern for icewm, which is why this
> > pattern is visible maybe we should split that out into a "Simple / basic"
> > desktop pattern and make that visible instead. But I think it would be best
> > if we keep doing the same thing between SLES / openSUSE as much as possible.
> 
> Sounds like a good idea. Can that be done for 15.2?

Maybe, I was being lazy and planning to do it in tumbleweed now and leave it
for Leap / SLE 16.0. It has a larger impact in SLE then in openSUSE and will
need changes to system roles so it probably needs a feature request and PM
signoff, so far I haven't gone to the effort of creating a feature request
ticket for it.