(In reply to Patrick Schaaf from comment #14) > (In reply to Franck Bui from comment #13) > > > Doesn't help with my laptop issues, unfortunately :( > > > > > > Are you laptop issues also involve "fix.service" unit ? > > I don't know. At least it did not help to simply remove that fix.service. I > tried that. > That sounds like another bug IMO. > Probably not - I don't think I saw the "Found ordering cycle" message there. > > > Did they appear after upgrading systemd from 208 to 210 ? > > Yes. > > I can try reverting to 208 on that laptop, tomorrow. (it's remote without > anybody near at the moment, and after downgrade from 210 to 208 shutdown > does not work, unfortunately....) > > If there is anything that I could usefully run and save the output of, > comparing the situation on the laptop before and after the 210->208 > downgrade attempt? Well if you cannot easily switch back to 208 that doesn't really matter, this info could have been useful but we can live without it. I would suggest to create a new bug (since removing fix.service is not enough) and attach the output of 'journalctl -b'. Before doing that, make sure to reboot and add to the kernel command line 'systemd.log_level=debug' and also remove 'quiet' from it. Thanks.