Am Montag 05 Oktober 2009 schrieb Klaas Freitag:
> Hi,
>
> as I promised I set up a tool I found on the internet for management of
> tasks and stories etc. to support our new agile style. It is called
> retrospectiva [1]. I hope it will fit our needs and will not hinder, but
> support us. Please always keep in mind that we want to open up and the
> first thing for that is transparency and with that the tool should support
> us.
>
> I set it up with some initial content and a bit of explanation on my
> desktop for you to check out, please call
>
> http://subbotin.suse.de:3000/wiki/opensuse
>
> and _read_ what I scratched on the first wiki page and play around.
> Use your login and the password 'boosters'.
>
> Don't by shy, flood the tool, it's just a test installation.
>
Did this get an official home? It's not running on port 3000 at least.
Greetings, Stephan
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Hi!
I'm not sure if you follow "distributions" mailing list, so I'm
forwarding here. Interesting parts are Debian patch-tracker (already
mentioned by Henne) and Patch tagging (vuntz created a concept in the
past, but wasn't accepted outside GNOME community, we can discuss the
Debian proposal as it will be probably accepted in Ubuntu and Fedora too
...)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: minutes of the mini distro summit held at GSoC meeting
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 23:16:21 +0100
From: Stefano Zacchiroli <zack(a)debian.org>
To: distributions(a)lists.freedesktop.org
Hi all,
I've participated at the Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit the last
week, together with various folks from different distro. Thanks to an
initiative by Donnie Berkholz (Gentoo), we had there a mini distribution
summit, where several distributions were represented. I'm reporting
below the minutes of the meeting kindly taken by Sylvestre Ledru
(Debian).
A couple of additional _personal_ notes of mine, that I believe might
interest the public of this list, are as follows:
- at the beginning of the session it was reminded about this list,
encouraging all people there to use it more, especially to ask advices
on how "something" is done in other distro and also how to better
coordinate with specific upstream
- the page
http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/DistributionLocations on our
wiki has been updated by most of us.
For what concerns Debian, I've updated it with an important pointer to
the now official website http://patch-tracker.debian.org , which let
everybody knows which changes wrt upstream has been performed in a
given Debian package
- I've mentioned DEP3 (http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/), an initiative
close to be formally accepted in Debian to tag patches with various
metadata (e.g. where it comes from, but also whether it has been
pushed upstream or not). That format is going to be accepted in Ubuntu
too; during the mini summit, people from Fedora expressed interest in
adopting it as well. I personally believe it can be a sound basis to
uniform patch tagging across distributions.
That's all, minutes follow (copy/paste from a printable mediawiki page,
still readable, I hope :)).
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Linux distribution mini-summit
>From Google Summer of Code Mentor Wiki
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Contents
[hide]
* 1 Distributions present
* 2 Minutes
o 2.1 Cross-distro discussions
o 2.2 Patch management
o 2.3 Relationship with upstream
o 2.4 Abstraction on package names
o 2.5 Compatibility on the startup script
o 2.6 How to handle packages on a daily basis
[edit] Distributions present
* Debian - 6 Debian contributors
* Gentoo - 2 Gentoo contributors
* Fedora - 2 Fedora contributors
* Chaos - 1 contributor
[edit] Minutes
[edit] Cross-distro discussions
Reminder for everybody, we do have a list!:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions . It is the
appropriate place to discuss cross-distro topics (packaging, design,
issues with specific upstream, ...)
[edit] Patch management
Discussion around the patch systems.
How collaborate with other distributions and exchange patches to avoid
duplicate work. Most distributions list their patch-tracking systems on
the freedesktop wiki DistributionLocations page. Example of Debian:
http://patch-tracker.debian.org
Discussion on Debian / Ubuntu relationship. How these two distributions
handle packages and patches exchanges.
[edit] Relationship with upstream
Success on building relationships with upstream
Having the main developer subscribed on the distribution bugtracker.
Example of a Scilab core developer who has to go from time to time on
all bugtrackers / patch management systems to see patches which could be
merged upstream
[edit] Abstraction on package names
Dirk: Example with CRAN (R packaging system). Each R package contains a
description file. This file describes the binary dependencies. Example:
postgresql will match libpq5 under Debian
How to handle relations with distributions of this.
How to generalize this
[edit] Compatibility on the startup script
Discussion on the services / init.d management / invoke-rc.d
Example: Differences with Apache under Fedora / Debian
Cross-distribution package mapping through a database ?
Package map by Sebastien Pipping:
http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=packagemap.git;a=summary
[edit] How to handle packages on a daily basis
How Fedora handles packages. SVN for spec files + patches and upstream
tarballs stored in different places.
Using git for packaging. Example of Debian
Some packaging projects (x.org for example) use the same git
repositories as upstream
How to track patches and, more generally, how to associate common
metadata with them. Example of Debian: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/
Donnie points out "git note" which enables adding information related to
a file.
Proposal to continue this on the FOSDEM
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[GREEN]
- Fixed bko#201993 - wrong wireless security type preselected
- NetworkManager applet dbus policy troubleshooting and fix
- Stopped showing Connect To Other Wireless dialog for !wireless interfaces
- Ran #opensuse-kde team meeting
- KDE bug triage
- Setup development BS instance
- 1-1 with Klaas
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OBS Webclient:
- new in place login
- fix redirection
- Sponsors Box
- Re-surrect staging system
https://build.opensuse.org/stage
- Enable web statistics for webclient:
http://buildserviceapi.suse.de/webalizer/webclient/
- Start using memcached, currently only for userdata
- Set up exceptionnotifier to mail exceptions
SUSE Studio:
- Help fixing problem with mod_upload_progress
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[GREEN]
- fixed 11.1->11.2 upgrades to not keep KDE3 as the desktop (bnc#529955)
- all remaining big OOo KDE4 integration problems like bnc#529640 should be
now handled
- bnc#536545, avoiding excessive I/O seeks on livecd, broke defaults, reverted
that for 11.2, will do properly later
- fixed the UI for changing xdg-user-dirs locations introduced with 11.2 to
work properly for those who don't want them (bnc#543775)
- openSUSE KDE IRC meeting
- created pages describing status of KDE3 and the KDE4 version for 11.2
- collected and created KDE 11.2 release notes
- testing, bugreport reviewing etc. - in general it looks like KDE for 11.2
should be now ok
- sailing in Croatia was great
[THIS WEEK]
- catch up
- finally hopefully have time for the wiki stuff
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Hi,
what i...
..did:
- move conference.o.o content to the wiki
- try out the different wikipedia portal templates
- sprint meeting
- orphaned packages discussion was brought to an end. Now the real work
of handing over packages begins.
- played with the stage wiki
- board strategy meeting
- as i found an empty room opposite of my new office i started migration
of lists.o.o to a new machine and to SLE11.
- read about and talked to pascal about the FOSDEM cross-distribution
devroom
- L3/Maintenance
- the usual meetings
..plan to do:
- hand off orphaned packages
- talk to people about the FOSDEM mini distribution devroom
- L3/Maintenance
...encountered as blocker:
n/a
Henne
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[green]
- working on bnc#546921
- working on MySQL Worknbench 5.2
- polishing MySQL
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Hey,
did you guys see the new debian patch tracker?
http://patch-tracker.debian.org/
Can we have something like this for factory.o.o? :)
Henne
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[amber]
- we're lacking the "Oh my god! We can't release this way!!!"
blocker bug yet. It should appear any minute now as the release
date is less than 10 days away.
- marketing/PM got the idea to have a x86_64 promo dvd _now_,
but they offered "Geld, Drogen und Frauen" so I was convinced.
My wife said I should pick one though - she didn't say which though.
[green]
- after several months of pinging, I fixed the kiwi instsource bug
myself
- after several months of pinging, I didn't leave Adrian's office
before the localworker failed for missing meta packages
- debugged with mls and adrian why our 11.2 media would magically
not find packages
- added x86_64 to promo dvd
- fixed my first webclient bug :)
- reviewed package submissions, reviewed bugzilla
- updated moneyplex package from matrica
- spent considerable chatting with Peter about all the dirty details,
got root access to widehat and mirrordb
- worked on the package translations. We have now at least the bare
minimum (some summaries).
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(still wondering how to make the subject for my work report mails sexy)
What I did last week:
- came back from vacation on Tuesday (and I had Thursday off)
- started catching up with mails
- 1-to-1 with Klaas
- also had a good chat about hermes with Klaas
- released GNOME 2.29.1
- caught up with GNOME Foundation Board life
- bug triage/closing
What I plan to do this week:
- some GNOME Release Team action (we had a meeting yesterday about
2.29/2.30; need to ping people, announce stuff)
- some GNOME Foundation action (we had a meeting last Thursday, so I
have some new action items)
- work with the openSUSE GNOME team on a plan for first round of
updates on 11.2
- take a closer look at hermes code to see if I can easily add a new
method (opening an url instead of outputting a mail or rss feed)
- hopefully finally start writing code to abuse hermes for build
service data cache
What has been annoying me:
- a bit worried about the number of bugs that got opened after both
RCs. Those are bugs that should have been reported earlier :/
Vincent
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