Getting verbose progress back on 15SP4?
Hi, doing the first installation of a 15SP4 system with AY we see the progress report has been reduced to the progress bar and the number and size of the remaining packages. In all previous version we could see the list of repos, how many packages from each repo had already been installed etc. and (most important!) the name of the package currently installed. All this info is now gone. I didn't find an option in the AY doku for SP4. Is there any way to get the verbose information back? At least the name of the currently installing package? Thanks! cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. Bioinformatik Mail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *
El lun, 04-07-2022 a las 16:22 +0200, Frank Steiner escribió:
Hi,
Hi Frank,
doing the first installation of a 15SP4 system with AY we see the progress report has been reduced to the progress bar and the number and size of the remaining packages.
In all previous version we could see the list of repos, how many packages from each repo had already been installed etc. and (most important!) the name of the package currently installed. All this info is now gone.
I didn't find an option in the AY doku for SP4. Is there any way to get the verbose information back? At least the name of the currently installing package?
Sorry, but there is no way to show the package names. For 15 SP4 we decided to simplify the progress screen. The main reason is that libzypp will support parallel packages installation and we found out that the old screen did not fit in that scenario at all. If you are interested, you might check the mailing list[1] discussion and some of the PRs[2][3] in GitHub.
Thanks!
Best regards, Imo [1] https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/yast-devel@lists.opensuse.org/threa... [2] https://github.com/yast/yast-yast2/pull/1202 [3] https://github.com/yast/yast-packager/pull/609 -- Imobach González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE LLC https://imobachgs.github.io/
Hi Imo, Imobach Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
Sorry, but there is no way to show the package names. For 15 SP4 we decided to simplify the progress screen. The main reason is that libzypp will support parallel packages installation and we found out that the old screen did not fit in that scenario at all.
If you are interested, you might check the mailing list[1] discussion and some of the PRs[2][3] in GitHub.
thanks for the explanation, but this was a very very bad decision. This is not MacOS where Apple is trying to keep users as stupid as possible. This is Linux where we are used to get detailed information and see what's going on. And parallel operations are not an argument. Kernel and systemd are doing bunch of stuff in parallel during boot process and are able to show even several progress bars in parallel. It's easy to stack output of parallel operations. Now you have got just one bar which stays at the same state for minutes and it's not possible to see why. I had to ssh to the host to check AY has not crashed. If there had been detailed information I could have a) seen which package is installing and that it is a huge one that takes some time and b) see the progress bar of all packages currently installing to know that things are still moving. Keeping information from users is always a very bad idea. That's what Windows and MacOS do. You shouldn't try to take that direction. cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. Bioinformatik Mail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *
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