[opensuse-artwork] comments on new artwork
I recently saw on Francis blog some screenshot of the new artwork and it looks very good. I'm a suse user for many years and I'm currently using the 10.2. I might take the plunge on the beta and upgrade. One element of the overall GUI of opensuse (and most linux distributions) that I find a little weak are the fonts. I don't know if the subpixel rendering will be enabled but that would be a first good step. I saw the greeter screenshot and it doesn't seem to have it enabled. The font in the screenshot looks similar to the default fonts on 10.2 and the defaults could be improved IMO. They give to KDE a "rough" edge. I have on my desktop the ms fonts (Tahoma/arial/verdana) but there are many other nice fonts that come with suse and have nice smoothing that could be good candidates for default fonts. I usually get lost in the fonts because each one seem to react differently... some have nice smoothing some do. Another default parameter that could be "improved" is the DPI. At 85 DPI, the truetypes look similar to windows but with the default (100?), the sizes are funky with the default parameters (a 10 size doesn't look like a 10 on windows). At last, another font problem is Java swing. By default, it looks quite ugly. There seemed to be some script that configured in the past for jdk 1.4 the fonts but that doesn't work anymore with JDK 5 and 6. Better default fonts for Java applications would make a massive difference on the end user experience. I'd be willing to help but I don't understand much about how fonts work :-P Erik Putrycz, Ph.D - Research Associate / erik.putrycz@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca / (613) 990 0681 Institute for Information Technology - Software Engineering Group National Research Council, Canada - Building M-50, 1200 Montreal Road Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA K1A 0R6 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Putrycz, Erik wrote: [...]
One element of the overall GUI of opensuse (and most linux distributions) that I find a little weak are the fonts. I don't know if the subpixel rendering will be enabled but that would be a first good step. I saw the greeter screenshot and it doesn't seem to have
Most probably not: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting [...] cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> __v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGs67Tr3NMWliFcXcRAihMAKCGQRTg4CXyZzugc/qmOlRJoRANdgCfR7hW 0qeKtTP5OxdumFSGygKelXM= =IPWY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
So what, Novell has a patent deal with MS. Hylke Pascal Bleser wrote:
Putrycz, Erik wrote: [...]
One element of the overall GUI of opensuse (and most linux distributions) that I find a little weak are the fonts. I don't know if the subpixel rendering will be enabled but that would be a first good step. I saw the greeter screenshot and it doesn't seem to have
Most probably not: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting
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cheers
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* Hylke Bons <h.bons@student.rug.nl> [08-03-07 18:56]:
So what, Novell has a patent deal with MS.
WHAT leads you to believe that Novell/openSUSE would violate the GPL? AIUI, the "patent" deal says that they will not sue each other, not that they will violate patents or contracts. YOU read something that is not THERE! -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
* Hylke Bons <h.bons@student.rug.nl> [08-03-07 19:20]:
AIUI, the "patent" deal says that they will not sue each other,
So it's safe to use. ;)
direct quote from: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting The subpixel hinting implementation in freetype2 might infringe Microsoft's ClearType patents, which is why it is disabled both upstream (by the freetype2 authors) and in the freetype2 RPM packages that ship with openSUSE.
Sorry, didn't want to troll and go offtopic.
Guess I still do not understand your former post or this post, then! Looks like the shoes fit. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
- Hylke Bons <h.bons@student.rug.nl> [08-03-07 18:56]:
So what, Novell has a patent deal with MS.
WHAT leads you to believe that Novell/openSUSE would violate the GPL? AIUI, the "patent" deal says that they will not sue each other, not that they will violate patents or contracts. YOU read something that is not THERE!
Wrong as well though Patrick ;) They may very well sue each other on patents. The point is that MS is bound by the deal not to sue openSUSE and SLE* _users_. But let's please close this sub-thread and not go further into off-topicness. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> __v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGs7kXr3NMWliFcXcRAjJHAJwJ6pJTBJPvowASfb5iQU1Q+Nhf9ACgn4Q5 k7S3Bq5mN2WKDC0whwy9fdY= =oCJS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hylke Bons wrote:
Pascal Bleser wrote:
Putrycz, Erik wrote: [...]
One element of the overall GUI of opensuse (and most linux distributions) that I find a little weak are the fonts. I don't know if the subpixel rendering will be enabled but that would be a first good step. I saw the greeter screenshot and it doesn't seem to have Most probably not: http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting
So what, Novell has a patent deal with MS.
(please don't top-post) And if you had read the patent deal FAQ [1], you'd know that it doesn't prevent MS from suing Novell on patents. [1] http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/faq.html - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\ <pascal.bleser@skynet.be> <guru@unixtech.be> __v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGs7i6r3NMWliFcXcRAn6TAJ9bfjXOrUsTqmVM6NZWelo3VO0UHACeKBen b82bXpGa1nWY21swHVmf5aE= =13qC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
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