On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:19:43 +0100 Michal Hrusecky wrote:

Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote:

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Hi,

so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:

10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build

I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D

Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in troubles section) or what I have wrong.

Generally any feedback appreciated.

[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8023816/chameleon.pdf [2] http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/iss/110111.aspx

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On 01/24/2012 11:19 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:

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Hi,

so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:

10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build

I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in

Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote: troubles section) or what I have wrong.

11: armv5te is the thumb enabled variant. We don't do te, but el, which is w/o thumb IIUC. 12: We never used cross compilation. Bootstrapping was done using meego packages. "hidden behind the walls" needs to have the reasoning on there too. It's because of security concerns. 13: Got exampes for softfp blobs? So far the only gpu we tried to get running was the imx51 one and that was available as hardfloat i think. 14: more _than_ General: You're missing a slide on kiwi Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/25/2012 01:35 PM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:

Alexander Graf - 11:43 25.01.12 wrote:

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On 01/24/2012 11:19 AM, Michal Hrusecky wrote:

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Hi,

so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:

10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build

I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in

Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote: troubles section) or what I have wrong. 11:

armv5te is the thumb enabled variant. We don't do te, but el, which is w/o thumb IIUC. Ok, will take that line out, used arch from gcc -v you showed me :-D But as it doesn't say anything more, I'll just leave it out.

Well, maybe we're naming it wrong. I wouldn't be surprised. So far nobody has been really actively working on v5. Everyone's complaining and wants it for their devices, but actual work on that target is minimal. You know how that goes :). Complaining is easier than actual work.

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We never used cross compilation. Bootstrapping was done using meego packages. "hidden behind the walls" needs to have the reasoning on there too. It's because of security concerns. Ok, I remembered that there were cross packages in GSoC, haven't realize that this time it was bootstrapped differently. Never really understood the security reasons, but will put it in there.

We're running code from unknown people and chroot is by definition insecure. So we need a VM :).

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Got exampes for softfp blobs? So far the only gpu we tried to get running was the imx51 one and that was available as hardfloat i think. I thought that was the state regarding PowerVR drivers in Panda, at least that's what I got from discussions.

Maybe, yeah. On Panda I don't get gfx at all atm. Not even a frame buffer.

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more _than_

General:

You're missing a slide on kiwi hmmm, will try to came up with something about kiwi, never used it myself. Will go through the mailing list...

I'm pretty sure Marcus would love to help you out there :) Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org

Marcus Schäfer - 14:46 25.01.12 wrote:

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You're missing a slide on kiwi hmmm, will try to came up with something about kiwi, never used it myself. Will go through the mailing list...

I'm pretty sure Marcus would love to help you out there :)

yep I'm pleased to offer a helping hand :)

what is needed here ? maybe I can provide a slide from one of my former talks about kiwi. There is nothing about building images with kiwi for arm so far... no talks held because that's brandnew stuff.

Well, I have some general idea what is kiwi good for, I can speak a little bit about that (will read something up), anything you thing would be good to stress regarding the ARM? I'm open to any suggestions. -- Michal Hrusecky

On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 11:19 +0100, Michal Hrusecky wrote:

Michal Hrusecky - 9:20 16.01.12 wrote:

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Hi,

so I went to the mailing list and got slot reserved in the CrossDistribution Devroom for the openSUSE on ARM talk. According to the current schedule it looks like it will be on Sunday:

10:30-11:00 Michal Hrusecky: openSUSE on ARM 11:00-12:00 Adrian Schröter: OBS Cross Build

I'm going to prepare some slides, hopefully soon and will post it here for comments. Although I'm listed in schedule, it definitely doesn't mean that I want to steal all the attention. IIRC there is plenty of space on stage :-D My intentions are to make openSUSE ARM port more famous, hopefully attract more people and do some good introduction for Adrians talk :-D

Ok, so here is[1] the first draft of slides about what I want to speak about. I want to mention HP Project Moonshot[2] as well, but haven't found suitable image so far, so it will be included later. What I wanted to ask for is some feedback especially what am I missing (especially in troubles section) or what I have wrong.

Generally any feedback appreciated.

[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8023816/chameleon.pdf [2] http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/iss/110111.aspx

-- Michal Hrusecky

We now also have a kernel for the u8500, and I'm just testing the kernel for the exynos4. It is also probably worth making a statement that this is a community effort and not driven by the corporate paymasters (yet). You might want to rework the slides a bit so you don't have so much text in each slide. Have the info in notes, and only have header style items in the slides. Too much text makes people switch off and loose interest, having somewhat amusing but relevant images would help. -- Andrew Wafaa IRC: FunkyPenguin GPG: 0x3A36312F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org