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Johan Nielsen

21 Sep 2004 21 Sep '04

17:22

Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff. Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any (And yes ... I'll probably buy a AMD64/Opteron myself in the near future) Johan

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jerry bookter

21 Sep 21 Sep

18:55

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--- Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add

Booted to W2K and ran Sandra: SiSoftware Sandra System Host Name : AMD64 User : Administrator Domain : AMD64 Processor Model : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ Speed : 2.05GHz Model Number : 3200 (estimated) Performance Rating : PR3075 (estimated) Type : Standard L2 On-board Cache : 1024kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size) Mainboard Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus MP Support : 1 CPU(s) MP APIC : Yes System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. 1001.005 System : To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By O.E.M. Mainboard : ASUSTeK Computer Inc. K8VSEDX Total Memory : 1535MB DDR-SDRAM Chipset 1 Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc Apollo K8HTB CPU to PCI Bridge Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 820MHz (1640MHz data rate) Chipset 2 Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 820MHz (1640MHz data rate) Total Memory : 1536MB DDR-SDRAM Memory Bus Speed : 2x 102MHz (204MHz data rate) Video System Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Imaging Device : Logitech QuickCam Express Physical Storage Devices Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive Hard Disk : Maxtor 6E040L0 (38.3GB) Hard Disk : MDT MD2500PB-55FBA0 (128.0GB) Hard Disk : WDC WD2000JB-16FUA0 (128.0GB) CD-ROM/DVD : SONY DVD RW DW-U18A (CD 40X Rd, 40X Wr) (DVD 5X Rd, 5X Wr) Logical Storage Devices 1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : N/A Hard Disk (C:) : 38.3GB (34.7GB, 91% Free) (NTFS) 200gb (D:) : 186.3GB (104.6GB, 56% Free) (NTFS) Hard Disk (E:) : 232.8GB (206.4GB, 89% Free) (FAT32) CD-ROM/DVD (F:) : N/A Peripherals Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT USB Controller/Hub : VIA USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller/Hub : VIA USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller/Hub : VIA USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller/Hub : VIA USB Universal Host Controller USB Controller/Hub : VIA PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub USB Controller/Hub : USB 2.0 Root Hub FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub : VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard Mouse : Microsoft PS/2 Mouse MultiMedia Device(s) Device : SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio Power Management AC Line Status : On-Line Operating System(s) Windows System : Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional (Win32 x86) 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 4) Network Services Adapter : Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter, Copper RJ-45

Peter Dalgaard

20:08

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jerry bookter writes:

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--- Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Here goes: MSI K8D mainboard Dual Opteron 240 (1.4G) 4x256M RAM (mainboard has 4+2 banks i.e. up to 12G if 2G blocks become affordable) 1 Maxtor 120G IDE (6Y120P0) 1 WDC 36G Raptor SATA Adaptec 1210SA PCI SATA controller The IDE disk was bought later, following troubles both with drivers and with the disk itself (ending with a SMART failure and RMA of disk). -- O__ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3 c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 ~~~~~~~~~~ - (p.dalgaard@biostat.ku.dk) FAX: (+45) 35327907

Peter Dalgaard

20:21

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Peter Dalgaard writes:

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1 Maxtor 120G IDE (6Y120P0) 1 WDC 36G Raptor SATA Adaptec 1210SA PCI SATA controller

The IDE disk was bought later, following troubles both with drivers and with the disk itself (ending with a SMART failure and RMA of disk).

Oops. That was imprecise. It was the SATA subsystem that gave me trouble. The WDC died prematurely, and there is trouble with the siimage driver for the Adaptec card (doesn't work and won't disable --> need to compile special kernels to use the sata_sil driver). -- O__ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3 c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 ~~~~~~~~~~ - (p.dalgaard@biostat.ku.dk) FAX: (+45) 35327907

Eros Albertazzi

22 Sep 22 Sep

08:02

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Suse 9.1 Dual Opteron 246 Tyan Thunder K8S 4GB ram 3 HD IDE 1 DVD fortran PGI compiler and just number crunching Fine, smooth, reliable....

Andy Young

21 Sep 21 Sep

19:21

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

I would recommend the w1100z Sun Workstation, as per my previous post. Its a little over priced, but the install worked very well. The w2100z might not work as well because the SMP kernel might not be in SuSE9.1. You have to get the server version instead. -Andy --- Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add

Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any

(And yes ... I'll probably buy a AMD64/Opteron myself in the near future)

Johan

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Bjorn Tore Sund

22 Sep 22 Sep

08:53

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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Andy Young wrote:

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I would recommend the w1100z Sun Workstation, as per my previous post. Its a little over priced, but the install worked very well. The w2100z might not work as well because the SMP kernel might not be in SuSE9.1. You have to get the server version instead.

Of course there's an SMP kernel with all SuSE versions! I am happily running SuSE 9.1 on a 4-CPU HP Proliant DL585 with no problems. Bjørn -- Bjørn Tore Sund Phone: (+47) 555-84894 Stupidity is like a System administrator Fax: (+47) 555-89672 fractal; universal and Math. Department Mobile: (+47) 918 68075 infinitely repetitive. University of Bergen VIP: 81724 Support: system@mi.uib.no Contact: teknisk@mi.uib.no Direct: bjornts@mi.uib.no

Joe Georger

21 Sep 21 Sep

19:32

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

I do scientific software development in C/C++ and some Matlab.... Dual Opteron 246 Tyan Thunder K8W 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR400 Nvidia Quadro FX1100 - using Nvidia drivers/Twinview dual Samsung 213T's 250 GB Maxtor PATA system disk 2x250 GB Maxtor SATA (works with beta Silicon Image driver Suse 9.0 No problems at all. Single Opteron 246 Asus SK8N 4GB Corsair Nvidia GeForce 5900 Ultra - using Nvidia drivers Samsung 240T (1920x1200 on dvi which Windows won't do for this monitor) 250 GB Maxtor PATA system disk 2x250 GB Maxtor PATA (does not work - can't find support for onboard Promise controller) Suse 9.0 Had to d/l Nvidia drivers to get ethernet working. With exception of onboard raid everything works nicely. Dual Opteron 246 Celestica 1U rackmount. AMD motherboard I think. 8 GB DDR333 ATP onboard ATI rage pro xl 146GB scsi Cheetah system disk Qlogic 2342 FC hba 2 x 3.5TB FC raids Suse 9.1 Machines work but I had some problems trying to format 3.5TB filesystem using LVM. XFS would crash, ReiserFS does this wierd thing where when the machine boots, it never makes it, reboots automatically, then the raids go thru fsck which takes about 20 min. I have 3 of these machines. On another one I formatted the raid using jfs and it boots cleanly every time. I bought a Matrox card hoping to get a cheap dual dvi dualhead, but there is no amd64 support so I gave it away. Nvidia has since come out with the Quadro NVS280 which would fill this gap but I already had the FX1100. Guy down the hall has one and it works well from what I gather. All in all I've been very happy with Suse on AMD64. 2 guys I work with just bought 15 dual Opteron 1U's and 15 copies of 9.1 Pro. Joe Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add

Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any

(And yes ... I'll probably buy a AMD64/Opteron myself in the near future)

Johan

Stephen Williams

20:41

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Dual Operon-244 HDAMB motherboard with SCSI disk, IDE CD-RW 3GByte nvidia GeForce MX 440 (according to lspci) SLES 8 I use this as an engineering workstation with some graphics work, so the SLES8 is a bit off the mark, but it has been stable. It was pre-installed by the system assembly house. USB (AMD-8111) is not particularly stable. It starts giving Oops if there are many USB-to-serial converters attached, and my USB CameraMate CF card reader/writer just plain doesn't work here. usb-storage devices in general are dodgy here. Works fine on a RedHat 7.3/i386 system. In all, the system was nice enough that we bought more for the other (green with envy) engineers. -- Steve Williams "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. steve at .......... But I have promises to keep, http://www........... and lines to code before I sleep, http://www.picturel.com And lines to code before I sleep."

Kees Hoekzema

20:55

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On Tuesday 21 September 2004 19:25, Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Single / dual / X-cpu systems I'm maintaining 6 dual Opterons and 1 single Opteron. 3 dual 240, one dual 242, one dual 244 and one dual 246 and a single 240. Tomorrow i hope to get in another dual 246 and a dual 250.

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Mainboard ASUS and MSI

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RAM Ram varies from 1GB to 8GB.

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Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any I havent got any recent problems. I used to have quite a lot with the first batch of 64 bits procs (quite an early adapter ;)). but i didnt have any problems later on. All servers are running stable in a production environment, some do web, other do mysql, some do nothing and they all do it very fast, espescially the last ;) The problems i had can be avoided by taking new hardware. like some memory - raidcontrollers - mb's combinations didnt work well.

All are running suse 9.1 or slackware 10.0 (yes, i know, that is 32 bits.. but some of my application (12-disk server to store temp-backups) dont require 64 bits.

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(And yes ... I'll probably buy a AMD64/Opteron myself in the near future) I only have some servers running 64 bits, no desktop yet (although my roommate just bought an 3500+ AMD64, but i dont think he would like to have linux installed on it ;)).

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Johan

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Johan Nielsen

21:46

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Tirsdag den 21. september 2004 19:25 skrev Johan Nielsen:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add

Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any

(And yes ... I'll probably buy a AMD64/Opteron myself in the near future)

Johan What PC's do you use for 64bit

Andi K. und Andreas J.?? Just reply in english ;-) Johan

h.andy＠gmx.de

22:04

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On 21 Sep 2004 at 19:25, Johan Nielsen wrote: Athlon64 3200+ MSI K8T Neo FIS2R (or something like that, can't remember exactly :) ) 1 Gig Corsair TwinX PC3200-LL VIA KT800 Maxtor S-ATA 120Gig HDD Running this system for nearly 1 year now (can't believe that time goes by this fast ;) ) First some problems with S-ATA (very first official revision of that board :-/ ), updated BIOS and firmware of the controllers, since then: Smooth, no more problems. Was expensive when bought, but there never were any regrets :) Bye Andy

mmarion＠qualcomm.com

22:13

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On 21 Sep, Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add

We've got a ton (4x66 blades from Racksaver... er.. Verari, with another rack of 66 blades on order) of opteron hosts. - Dual cpu, most 248s, newest rack going to be 250s. - All Arima motherboards.. new ones have newer bcm5703 chipset. - Almost all 8gig (33 16gig) - Arima HDAMA chipset, new 1.83 (I think) BIOS on new ones. Only real problem we've had so far is that one of the earier revs had an issue if ecc and memory interlacing was turned on. 32bit image would infinitely reboot itself. Newer bios rev fixed that. Sorry, I don't remember exact rev with issues. We're actually running most hosts in 32bit mode now (only 33, the 16gig ones in 64bit mode, SLES9) since most apps the engineers we support use on linux are 32bit. As time goes on that's changing.. more and more amd64 binaries coming out every month. Best thing about a64/opterons IMO? They still tend to win or tie Xeons in 32bit mode.. and have the upgradability to 64bit when you're ready. We want all our compute hosts to be 64bit eventually (yes we have a few itaniums too) so that linux will be just like solaris in the compute environment: All 64bit, but natively supports 32bit legacy apps too. Oh, other problem we've had, which few will.. is afs. We use AFS for all our app installs. The amd64_linux26 version is way behind where openafs is concerned, but I've found that the latest arla and heimdal are a good fillin for now... and we may end up just sticking with it if openafs doesn't catch up soon. -- Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Staff Engineer-http://www.qualcomm.com ftp://127.0.0.1 ..... That site sucks. I've already got all of that stuff!

Dabe Murphy

22 Sep 22 Sep

00:52

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Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

Originally I thought "Great, there goes the signal-to-noise ratio" but since we're all comparing the size of our tools, I guess I'll throw in my two cents after all: Shuttle XPC SN85G4v2 (Small Form Factor) Athlon64 3200+ CPU nVidia nForce3 150 chipset (Flawless!) 250GB SATA HDD (8MB cache) ATI Radeon 9200 GFX Card 2x512MB DDR400 RAM DVD+/-RW SuSE 9.1 Personal (2.6.8.1 kernel) All in a chassis no bigger than a shoebox! With a dozen years of Unix experience, SuSE has rapidly become my favorite Linux distribution. For starters, I had no problem booting off the SATA drive; I'm not using the soft RAID, just a simple single HDD. Even YaST has managed to sway a dyed-in-the-wool "text file and command line" bigot like myself; "sudo yast sw_single foo-app" makes it almost TOO easy sometimes! The only problems I've had with the machine are: - Radeon drivers lag current kernels. Fie on ATI! - I've also got a Shuttle PN15 802.11g WLAN antenna, which is based on the Prism54 USB chipset. Sadly, Linux support for that driver hasn't been completed yet. :'-( (This is why I track the latest kernels. See above.) - The box runs *HOT!* "sensors" reports that my CPU is 70C!!! I'm wondering if the VAR from whom I bought it may have applied the "Ice Pipe" liquid-cooled heatsink incorrectly. But after 3 months of solid use, I've yet to have any problems with it, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. - I also have a Wacom Graphire graphics tablet which doesn't seem to work. I'm GUESSING the driver isn't 64-bit clean, but I'm not sure. If anybody else has gotten their Wacom graphics tablet to work under SuSE AMD64, please let me know. [Email me; I'll summarize to the list]. -- Dabrien "Dabe" Murphy Sr. Systems Administrator Parabon Computation, Inc. www.parabon.com

Johan Nielsen

07:28

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Onsdag den 22. september 2004 02:52 skrev Dabe Murphy:

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Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

Originally I thought "Great, there goes the signal-to-noise ratio" but since we're all comparing the size of our tools, I guess I'll throw in my two cents after all:

And do we loeve the spice you threw in. But frankly I did it to get/give me/others a picture of things that work and what to expect of 64bit hardware. The suse HW support-DB doesn't quite have a 64bit section (aka you'd have to know every exact product name to benefit from it). This way you may also get a valuable insigt to the success/failliures of others. And it's way nice to be on the path of success than of the one with faillures and pitfall's ;-)

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Shuttle XPC SN85G4v2 (Small Form Factor) Athlon64 3200+ CPU nVidia nForce3 150 chipset (Flawless!) 250GB SATA HDD (8MB cache) ATI Radeon 9200 GFX Card 2x512MB DDR400 RAM DVD+/-RW SuSE 9.1 Personal (2.6.8.1 kernel)

All in a chassis no bigger than a shoebox!

With a dozen years of Unix experience, SuSE has rapidly become my favorite Linux distribution. For starters, I had no problem booting off the SATA drive; I'm not using the soft RAID, just a simple single HDD.

Even YaST has managed to sway a dyed-in-the-wool "text file and command line" bigot like myself; "sudo yast sw_single foo-app" makes it almost TOO easy sometimes!

The only problems I've had with the machine are:

- Radeon drivers lag current kernels. Fie on ATI!

- I've also got a Shuttle PN15 802.11g WLAN antenna, which is based on the Prism54 USB chipset. Sadly, Linux support for that driver hasn't been completed yet. :'-(

(This is why I track the latest kernels. See above.)

- The box runs *HOT!* "sensors" reports that my CPU is 70C!!! I'm wondering if the VAR from whom I bought it may have applied the "Ice Pipe" liquid-cooled heatsink incorrectly. But after 3 months of solid use, I've yet to have any problems with it, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

- I also have a Wacom Graphire graphics tablet which doesn't seem to work. I'm GUESSING the driver isn't 64-bit clean, but I'm not sure. If anybody else has gotten their Wacom graphics tablet to work under SuSE AMD64, please let me know. [Email me; I'll summarize to the list].

-- Dabrien "Dabe" Murphy Sr. Systems Administrator Parabon Computation, Inc. www.parabon.com

Martin Schmidt

08:03

Subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use Shuttle XPC SN85G4v2 Athlon64 3200+ CPU nVidia nForce3 150 chipset WDC WD1200BB-60CJA1 (IDE) nVidia GForce 55xxFX 2x512MB PC2100 RAM DVD+/-RW SuSE 9.1 Pro. I'm more or less happy with this config. The system runs out of the box. But after a few YOUs there is a problem with the automount or hotplug. Don't know why, the systems can't detect Firewire/USB-devices by itself. If I look at the configuration of storage-devices with the partiton-tool in YAST I can figure out the device and can mount it by myself. The other stuff is running fine. Perhaps there are a few issues with the sound but the same issues are on 32bit (mixing normal 2.0 sound to 5.1, it works with JACK). The temperature of the CPU is very low, even if the CPU runs several hours nearly on 100%. (I had to do some BIOS updates for this). Martin

Peter Dalgaard

11:29

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Martin Schmidt writes:

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after a few YOUs there is a problem with the automount or hotplug. Don't know why, the systems can't detect Firewire/USB-devices by itself.

This happens if the kernel got upgraded and you didn't reboot - the old kernel is still running and tries to load modules from (say) /lib/modules/2.6.5-7.104-smp but the whole directory was replaced with /lib/modules/2.6.5-7.108-smp. Could that be it? -- O__ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3 c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 ~~~~~~~~~~ - (p.dalgaard@biostat.ku.dk) FAX: (+45) 35327907

Martin Schmidt

13:23

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The modules are loaded. The only problem are the mountpoints and the fstab file. The devices (both Firewire and USB) are working fine. After installing the system (without any updates) the devices are recognised automatically and mountpoints are created. After updates I have to create mountpoint and entry in the fstab manually. I don't remember the update after the problem emerged, but it could have been a kernel update. Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 13:27 schrieb Peter Dalgaard:

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Martin Schmidt writes:

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after a few YOUs there is a problem with the automount or hotplug. Don't know why, the systems can't detect Firewire/USB-devices by itself.

This happens if the kernel got upgraded and you didn't reboot - the old kernel is still running and tries to load modules from (say) /lib/modules/2.6.5-7.104-smp but the whole directory was replaced with /lib/modules/2.6.5-7.108-smp. Could that be it?

-- O__ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3 c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 ~~~~~~~~~~ - (p.dalgaard@biostat.ku.dk) FAX: (+45) 35327907

John Scott

15:32

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin Schmidt wrote: | The modules are loaded. The only problem are the mountpoints and the fstab | file. The devices (both Firewire and USB) are working fine. After installing | the system (without any updates) the devices are recognised automatically and | mountpoints are created. After updates I have to create mountpoint and entry | in the fstab manually. I don't remember the update after the problem emerged, | but it could have been a kernel update. | | | Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 13:27 schrieb Peter Dalgaard: | |>Martin Schmidt writes: |> |>>after a few YOUs there is a problem with the automount or hotplug. Don't |>>know why, the systems can't detect Firewire/USB-devices by itself. |> |>This happens if the kernel got upgraded and you didn't reboot - the |>old kernel is still running and tries to load modules from (say) |>/lib/modules/2.6.5-7.104-smp but the whole directory was replaced with |>/lib/modules/2.6.5-7.108-smp. Could that be it? |> |>-- |> O__ ---- Peter Dalgaard Blegdamsvej 3 |> c/ /'_ --- Dept. of Biostatistics 2200 Cph. N |> (*) \(*) -- University of Copenhagen Denmark Ph: (+45) 35327918 |>~~~~~~~~~~ - (p.dalgaard@biostat.ku.dk) FAX: (+45) 35327907 | The problem first appeared (for me) after hotplug was updated. I've got 0.44-32.22 (orig version was 0.44-23). Several updates from SuSE for hotplug, hwinfo, and submount (I think) haven't solved the problem. Returning to orig version of each didn't solve the problem either, for me anyway. The system logs when I plug in a usb device, but can't seem to automount it. I can mount it from terminal, but not automount. I've just learned to live with it for now. There were several long posts on the suse-linux-e list about this. Solutions for the i386 group don't seem to work for us in the x86_64 group. John -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBUZrb5JB+bPW3+KwRAsRsAKCdwUvWS/A5VA2wE8viaWITzxEo2gCgutjb m3OdxSzwqXvpgnLWzrkeBy4= =soG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Edwin Heath

19:24

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Hi All, I'm also running an SN85G4v2 Shuttle SN85G4v2 Athlon64 3200+ nVidia nForce 3 150 chipset Maxtor DiamondMax9 8Mb 6Y120M0 120GB SATA 150 (Works a treat) Corsair TwinX 1024 XMS3200C2PT NEC ND-2510A Dual Layer DVD Writer (Not got round to testing its burning capabilities yet) Nvidia FX5200 Iiyama Prolite E511s LCD When I first installed the system, I could not get SaX2 to run at all, it would hang the box every time. By manually editing the XF86Config I got X running using the nv driver. Also hwinfo would hang at 100% CPU as would sysp.pl as part of SaX2. A few You updates later and the problem has gone away. I'm not 100% sure but I now believe this may have been in part caused by the Auto size feature on the monitor which I switched off around the time the problem went away (too many changes at one time..doh!) I then had problems with X hanging every other time using the VGA Cable or a black screen using a DVI cable. I worked these two issues by using: Option "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP-0" Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "TV" As X was incorrectly detecting my monitor. X now works every time with the DVI cable or the vga cable using CRT-0 instead. I had problems with random crackly sounds after one of the kernel updates which persisted through several reboots. This was fixed by stopping alsasound then rmmod snd_intel8x0 follwed by modprobe snd_intel8x0 and restarting alsasound. No idea why but it worked! The 6 in 1 Card reader works fine with Compact Flash cards if I manually mount them. USB Pen Drives and my USB Hard disk also work fine If I manually mount them. I have given up on trying to get USB devices to auto mount in 32 and 64 bit as when it did work it used horrible names! I'm still only 4 months into my Linux education but I am so impressed with Suse that I have stopped using MS at home and regained a real interest in computers. Shame I still have to use and recommend MS at work as I now see how much Linux has to offer in comparison. Keep up the good work. Ed On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 09:02, Martin Schmidt wrote:

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Subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

Shuttle XPC SN85G4v2 Athlon64 3200+ CPU nVidia nForce3 150 chipset WDC WD1200BB-60CJA1 (IDE) nVidia GForce 55xxFX 2x512MB PC2100 RAM DVD+/-RW SuSE 9.1 Pro.

I'm more or less happy with this config. The system runs out of the box. But after a few YOUs there is a problem with the automount or hotplug. Don't know why, the systems can't detect Firewire/USB-devices by itself. If I look at the configuration of storage-devices with the partiton-tool in YAST I can figure out the device and can mount it by myself. The other stuff is running fine. Perhaps there are a few issues with the sound but the same issues are on 32bit (mixing normal 2.0 sound to 5.1, it works with JACK). The temperature of the CPU is very low, even if the CPU runs several hours nearly on 100%. (I had to do some BIOS updates for this).

Martin

Örn Hansen

01:24

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

tisdag 21 september 2004 19:25 skrev Johan Nielsen:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add

Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any

AMD64 3000+ CPU MSI K8T Neo FSR mainboard 512 MB 333MHz ram VIA KT800 Chipset PATA 80Gb hard drive Nvidia GeForce 4 ti4200, 128Mb ram. Haupauge WinTV PCI Watercooling Had a problem with freezes originally, that were solved with a BIOS upgrade. Otherwise smooth, and all hardware is working.

Erich Boleyn

16:08

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

First off, I am an AMD employee, so you can take this as you will, but the below are about my personal systems at home. Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff. ... All the info you'd like to add

Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any

I have 4 systems: -- Dual Opteron 244 Tyan Thunder K8W (S2885) dual MB 8 GB ECC RAM -- Opteron 248 (one socket populated) Tyan Thunder K8S Pro (S2880) dual MB 2 GB ECC RAM -- Opteron 248 ASUS SK8V 2 GB ECC RAM The first 2 run Linux-64, and the third one dual boots Linux-64 and Windows XP SP2. The only problems I had were with the Tyan motherboards before about June sometime due to BIOS issues, and some teething pains with early Linux-64. They are resolved and running well now. -- Erich Stefan Boleyn http://www.uruk.org/ "Reality is truly stranger than fiction; Probably why fiction is so popular"

Johan Nielsen

18:42

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

Onsdag den 22. september 2004 18:03 skrev Erich Boleyn:

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First off, I am an AMD employee, so you can take this as you will, but the below are about my personal systems at home.

Exactly ...... can you set me of for a nice discount ;-) Any comments on the 3,5GB barrier that I've posted about some boards ?? (I suspect that this is not due to AMD but just throwing it into the debate) Hmmmm how responsive is AMD64 chips to overclocking ..... of the record ;-) (links would do too).

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Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

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All the info you'd like to add

Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any

I have 4 systems:

-- Dual Opteron 244 Tyan Thunder K8W (S2885) dual MB 8 GB ECC RAM

-- Opteron 248 (one socket populated) Tyan Thunder K8S Pro (S2880) dual MB 2 GB ECC RAM

-- Opteron 248 ASUS SK8V 2 GB ECC RAM

The first 2 run Linux-64, and the third one dual boots Linux-64 and Windows XP SP2.

The only problems I had were with the Tyan motherboards before about June sometime due to BIOS issues, and some teething pains with early Linux-64. They are resolved and running well now.

-- Erich Stefan Boleyn http://www.uruk.org/ "Reality is truly stranger than fiction; Probably why fiction is so popular"

Bjorn Tore Sund

23 Sep 23 Sep

09:03

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Onsdag den 22. september 2004 18:03 skrev Erich Boleyn:

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First off, I am an AMD employee, so you can take this as you will, but the below are about my personal systems at home.

Exactly ...... can you set me of for a nice discount ;-)

Any comments on the 3,5GB barrier that I've posted about some boards ?? (I suspect that this is not due to AMD but just throwing it into the debate)

I've got a 4-CPU proliant DL585 with 16GB ram and a dual CPU Appro 1100h (Rioworks board) with 8GB ram running without problems. Can you give a link to your postings? What's the problem?

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Hmmmm how responsive is AMD64 chips to overclocking ..... of the record ;-) (links would do too).

The main purpose of overclocking is to void your warranty and cause your hardware to fail. Not a good combination. Bjørn -- Bjørn Tore Sund Phone: (+47) 555-84894 Stupidity is like a System administrator Fax: (+47) 555-89672 fractal; universal and Math. Department Mobile: (+47) 918 68075 infinitely repetitive. University of Bergen VIP: 81724 Support: system@mi.uib.no Contact: teknisk@mi.uib.no Direct: bjornts@mi.uib.no

Johan Nielsen

21:48

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

Torsdag den 23. september 2004 11:02 skrev Bjorn Tore Sund:

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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Onsdag den 22. september 2004 18:03 skrev Erich Boleyn:

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First off, I am an AMD employee, so you can take this as you will, but the below are about my personal systems at home.

Exactly ...... can you set me of for a nice discount ;-)

Any comments on the 3,5GB barrier that I've posted about some boards ?? (I suspect that this is not due to AMD but just throwing it into the debate)

I've got a 4-CPU proliant DL585 with 16GB ram and a dual CPU Appro 1100h (Rioworks board) with 8GB ram running without problems. Can you give a link to your postings? What's the problem?

Just doublechecked .... and seems it was related to memtest. But the person had a dual opteron CPU ;-) Seems like he must have run into this case: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2001/05/thallma_memtest86.html

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Hmmmm how responsive is AMD64 chips to overclocking ..... of the record ;-) (links would do too).

The main purpose of overclocking is to void your warranty and cause your hardware to fail. Not a good combination.

Bjørn -- Bjørn Tore Sund Phone: (+47) 555-84894 Stupidity is like a System administrator Fax: (+47) 555-89672 fractal; universal and Math. Department Mobile: (+47) 918 68075 infinitely repetitive. University of Bergen VIP: 81724 Support: system@mi.uib.no Contact: teknisk@mi.uib.no Direct: bjornts@mi.uib.no

Al Adler

22 Sep 22 Sep

19:24

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

Hardware: Dual Opteron 240 on Tyan 2882, 2Gb memory, Dual 120gb SATA for storage, SCSI for boot. OS: Suse 90 64bit. We've been trying to use this as a JBOSS( Java J2EE) server, and its been a nightmare. We had some problems getting the OS installed with SATA support since the SI3114 driver wasn't included in early 9.0 64 bit kernels but eventually that was fixed. However the real nightmare has been JAVA JVM's for the most part are not stable on the 64 bit platform. Every 2.6 kernel we've tried results in every JVM we've tried segfaulting. With the 2.4 kernels some of the JVM's are stable with certain kernels, but not the next one. Right now we're several kernel releases behind because the last one we tried caused the JVM to leak memory and we don't have a week to check out each one. If you're planning on running a Java app in a server environment, stay away from this hardware and software combination. Al Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add

Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any

(And yes ... I'll probably buy a AMD64/Opteron myself in the near future)

Johan

S. Mitchell

19:29

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Laurent GUERBY

19:49

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

At work: 116 Sun V20Z Dual Opteron 248 with 2GB RAM running SuSE 9.1 Pro 64bit (stripped down set of packages/autoyast'ed). 3 bad machines (one no boot, one constant reboot, one freeze after a few hours of computation), but were quickly replaced by Sun. Used for financial number crunching 24x7. Note that the chip that monitor temperature and power-off does work: we had a climatization cut of fifteen minutes, and 10% of the machine, mainly in the top of our racks, went off on their own (don't know if Linux is able to communicate with this chip though). I believe 40 more V20Z are to be delivered soon. 1 IBM x325 Dual Opteron 246 with 3GB RAM running SuSE 9.1 Pro 64bit. Used for various things. At home: Athlon 64 3000+, 1GB RAM, ASUS K8V SE Deluxe, Radeon 7000. Mainly used to experiment, compile GCC from CVS. Desktop application are still running on my Athlon XP 2600 because I'm lazy :). No unexplained crashes or reboot so far. Laurent

Mark Horton

23 Sep 23 Sep

19:52

New subject: [suse-amd64] POLL: Do you have a positive impression on the 64-bit platform ... plz drop a note on the hardware you use

I have a positive impression. I've got 2 opteron systems. Both systems run Suse 9.1 One is a general purpose server and the other is a development workstation used to test a database application. General purpose server ---------------------- (1) Arima HDAMA motherboard (2) Opteron 240 CPU (2) 512 MB 333Mhz RAM (1) 8506-4LP 3ware 4 channel SATA controller (3) 250 GB Maxtor SATA drives This is mostly a web server with about 500GB of file storage. I had no problem at all installing or configuring Suse 9.1. This particular 3ware controller is supported during installation so I had no SATA problems. The SATA controller is running hardware RAID 5. This server is about a year old. It's been running it's current configuration for around 6 months or whenever Suse 9.1 first came out. I don't think its ever crashed or had any issues. The last time I rebooted it was during a power outage about a month ago. Mysql test system ----------------- (1) Tyan 2885 motherboard (2) Opteron 250 CPU (8) 1 GB PC3200 400Mhz RAM (1) LsiLogic Megaraid 4 channel SCSI raid controller (20) 36.7 GB 10k Fujitsu SCSI U320 HDD The main thing I was concerned about was the raid controller. I had a previous problem with it on the Arima HDAMA motherboard. The bios would not see it. But the Tyan 2885 had no problem. I have since heard that Arima has fixed this issue with a bios upgrade. Suse 9.1 had no problems configuring it during or after installation. Mark Johan Nielsen wrote:

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Would be nice to have around for all considering buying stuff.

Single / dual / X-cpu systems Mainboard RAM Chipset All the info you'd like to add

Plz let me/others know how you dealt with problems if you had any

(And yes ... I'll probably buy a AMD64/Opteron myself in the near future)

Johan

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