i have an HP dv8135nr and for some reason the 64bit dvd install isnt working. I have selected safe mode and it still just goes to a black screen and doesnt go any further. it does have an ATI xpresss 200M graphics card in it. could that be the problem? i really would like to make use of this 64bit cpu, and SUSE has gotten the farthest out of everything distro ive tried to install on this thing, but it still hasnt even gotten to the install part yet..... are there any other things i can tell the kernel at boot to maybe get past this. or how about a text based install? but if the GUI doesnt work in the install it probably wont work after the install, so thats no good either. thanks for any help Nick
On 14.03.2006 15:51, Nick Smith wrote:
i have an HP dv8135nr and for some reason the 64bit dvd install isnt working. I have selected safe mode and it still just goes to a black screen and doesnt go any further. it does have an ATI xpresss 200M graphics card in it. could that be the problem? i really would like to make use of this 64bit cpu, and SUSE has gotten the farthest out of everything distro ive tried to install on this thing, but it still hasnt even gotten to the install part yet..... are there any other things i can tell the kernel at boot to maybe get past this. or how about a text based install? but if the GUI doesnt work in the install it probably wont work after the install, so thats no good either.
thanks for any help
Nick
I have a Compaq Presario notbook with the same graphic chip. I got the installation working when disabling ACPI. Have to say, I installed 10.1 beta3. I also tried 10.0, but did not have any luck with that one. Later on I was thinking whether the trick is actually to do "no APIC" instead of "no ACPI". As I ran in other problems, I ended up installing the 32-bit version of 10.1 beta3 and that far run quite good with it. Did you try asking the HP support about that? Guenter
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 09:51 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
i have an HP dv8135nr and for some reason the 64bit dvd install isnt working. I have selected safe mode and it still just goes to a black screen and doesnt go any further. it does have an ATI xpresss 200M graphics card in it. could that be the problem? i really would like to make use of this 64bit cpu, and SUSE has gotten the farthest out of everything distro ive tried to install on this thing, but it still hasnt even gotten to the install part yet..... are there any other things i can tell the kernel at boot to maybe get past this. or how about a text based install? but if the GUI doesnt work in the install it probably wont work after the install, so thats no good either.
thanks for any help
Nick
How much system memory? Is this a multi-processor system with dual-core CPU's? Need more info. Brad Dameron SeaTab Software www.seatab.com
How much system memory? Is this a multi-processor system with dual-core CPU's? Need more info.
sorry, here is the info turion64 mobile amd cpu 2.0ghz 1gig ram 200GB hardrive ATI xpress 200M 128meg dedicated video ram i have tried the 64bit version and my 'known working" 32bit dvd version and they both allow me to select the install or safe mode, but they just go to a black screen afterwords, so i think its video related, could this card be too new to be supported?
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 12:28 -0500, Nick Smith wrote:
How much system memory? Is this a multi-processor system with dual-core CPU's? Need more info.
sorry, here is the info
turion64 mobile amd cpu 2.0ghz 1gig ram 200GB hardrive ATI xpress 200M 128meg dedicated video ram
i have tried the 64bit version and my 'known working" 32bit dvd version and they both allow me to select the install or safe mode, but they just go to a black screen afterwords, so i think its video related, could this card be too new to be supported?
In your grub edit the boot line and change vga=0x314 to vga=normal This will put it into text mode instead of vga mode. I don't see any reason that video card would cause an issue tho. It should use some generic driver initially. Are you using SELinux by any chance as well? Brad Dameron SeaTab Software www.seatab.com
In your grub edit the boot line and change vga=0x314 to vga=normal
This will put it into text mode instead of vga mode. I don't see any reason that video card would cause an issue tho. It should use some generic driver initially. Are you using SELinux by any chance as well?
no SElinux, just the standard Suse stuff. how would i edit the grub boot line on the install DVD? wouldnt that be read only? i mean it boots, i get the "welcome" screen, i can select the install and or safe mode install, and after i do thats when the screen goes blank.....
On 14.03.2006 19:05, Nick Smith wrote:
In your grub edit the boot line and change vga=0x314 to vga=normal
This will put it into text mode instead of vga mode. I don't see any reason that video card would cause an issue tho. It should use some generic driver initially. Are you using SELinux by any chance as well?
no SElinux, just the standard Suse stuff. how would i edit the grub boot line on the install DVD? wouldnt that be read only? i mean it boots, i get the "welcome" screen, i can select the install and or safe mode install, and after i do thats when the screen goes blank.....
When you can select the install, ... install ACPI disabled, ... install save mode, there are menu items at the bottom of the screen. One says, I believe options and it is usually set to your screen geometry. So something like 1024x768. You can select that menu by the function key that is displayed next to it. If I recall right it is F3. Change it to text mode. Then the whole installation will be done with the text mode installation. Also, changing the selection from "install" to "install ACPI disabled" is the menu. That menu change does a change in the line at the lower half of the screen starting with: boot: .... So when you change the menu, you will see how in that line suddenly different parameter are listed after the "boot:". You can go to that line and add your own kernel parameter.
When you can select the install, ... install ACPI disabled, ... install save mode, there are menu items at the bottom of the screen. One says, I believe options and it is usually set to your screen geometry. So something like 1024x768. You can select that menu by the function key that is displayed next to it. If I recall right it is F3.
ok i got it changed to text mode
Change it to text mode. Then the whole installation will be done with the text mode installation.
Also, changing the selection from "install" to "install ACPI disabled" is the menu. That menu change does a change in the line at the lower half of the screen starting with:
i selected "install ACPI disabled"
boot: ....
So when you change the menu, you will see how in that line suddenly different parameter are listed after the "boot:".
You can go to that line and add your own kernel parameter.
then i see the boot text scrolling and it stops at PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) i let it sit for 10mins and it does nothing....any other ideas? Suse has always ran on any system ive tried it on, but this one has got me stumped...
On 14.03.2006 20:48, Nick Smith wrote:
then i see the boot text scrolling and it stops at PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
i let it sit for 10mins and it does nothing....any other ideas?
Suse has always ran on any system ive tried it on, but this one has got me stumped...
This is getting into thin air for me. Probably someone with more experience has some better ideas here. As you can pass arguments to the "boot: ... " yourself you could look what further arguments there are apart from ones set by the selection you do. A first try might be to go with the third option, I think "install safe mode" or something. You will see in the "boot: ..." line there are already a lot of things disabled. See whether that brings you further. Concerning further support, I am not sure which source has more experienced people, but I got a bit lost how many different support lists and forums there are listed under http://opensuse.org. So I don't know where there are more knowledgeable people, here in this mailing list or in any of the forums. One is for example http://www.suseforums.net. Maybe that gets you further.
* Nick Smith (nick.smith79@gmail.com) [20060314 19:05]:
How would i edit the grub boot line on the install DVD? wouldnt that be read only?
In the graphical boot screen press ESC which will present you with the text mode boot menu. Select the appropriate entry and press E. This will give you an editing line that lets you modify the menu entry on the fly in memory. Philipp
El Martes 14 Marzo 2006 18:45, Brad Dameron escribió:
ATI xpress 200M 128meg dedicated video ram
Welcome to HP Club... I have more o less the same laptop (HP Pavilion 8050EA)... My Linux first install was a real nigthmare... In 32 bit mode everything is working perfectly, even the Wireless with ndiswrapper. In 64bit mode, you need to disable ACPI to the install the system, install the kernels sources & development system. Install the stock kernel from www.kernel.org (2.6.15). Compile & install the new kernel, then you can enable the ACPI and work with a correct computer. The problem is with the radeon 200M and the ATI-XP chipset. Good luck. -- Bye, Manu. Break the rules! Break the windows! Use Linux! manu at valux.org http://www.valux.org Linux is here to stay. FUD won't make it go away. ************************************************* * Manuel Soriano * Lo Perello/Valencia/Spain * ( AbM Compliant ) Linux Counter Nº: 294597 Para que funcione la alianza de civilizaciones, todos deben ser civilizados.
On 14.03.2006 18:28, Nick Smith wrote:
How much system memory? Is this a multi-processor system with dual-core CPU's? Need more info.
sorry, here is the info
turion64 mobile amd cpu 2.0ghz 1gig ram 200GB hardrive ATI xpress 200M 128meg dedicated video ram
ATI has actually an driver available for Linux on their page. You just need to have a specific version of Xorg or FreeX installed, which I believe did match with suse 10.0.
i have tried the 64bit version and my 'known working" 32bit dvd version and they both allow me to select the install or safe mode, but they just go to a black screen afterwords, so i think its video related, could this card be too new to be supported?
If it is really the graphic driver you should be able to install in the text mode without any problems. I got a bunch of ideas when looking on this page: http://linux-laptop.net/ for other Comapaq/HP laptops with the same chip set of mine. Cheers, Guenter
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 01:51, Nick Smith wrote:
i have an HP dv8135nr and for some reason the 64bit dvd install isnt working. I have selected safe mode and it still just goes to a black screen and doesnt go any further. it does have an ATI xpresss 200M graphics card in it. could that be the problem? i really would like to make use of this 64bit cpu, and SUSE has gotten the farthest out of everything distro ive tried to install on this thing, but it still hasnt even gotten to the install part yet..... are there any other things i can tell the kernel at boot to maybe get past this. or how about a text based install? but if the GUI doesnt work in the install it probably wont work after the install, so thats no good either.
thanks for any help
Nick
G'Day Nick. I had a similar problem with my laptop. I took it to Sydney Linux Users' Group and a couple of young people sorted it for me. Apparently the following is quite common, but it may not be your problem. Many laptops use some RAM for video memory. The BIOS starts with the information that there is, say 512 MB RAM. Linux, quick off the mark, takes that information and starts setting up. Then the video hardware gets under way and takes some RAM, but Linux still thinks that the full 512 is available and thus there is a conflict with the use of RAM and the video seems to fail. Two solutions: 1: The young people put a time delay into my boot strap so that the video hardware had time to initialise before Linux became active. 2: M$ Windows is so slow at starting that the video hardware is up and running before Windows gets a chance to interrogate the size of RAM. Hence, as a colleague of mine does, start into M$ Windows, then, while the video hardware is wound up, he re-boots into Linux. Good luck, Colin
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