So far, I have write-protected the openSUSE ambassador list in the openSUSE wiki and ask all ambassadors to write me first - and then send them the questioniare and introduce them here as new ambassadors.
Therefore I'm basically the first contact and greeter for them ;)
I'd like to pass this job on to somebody else - or a small team - since it takes me far too long to handle these requests.
If you're interested, please speak up!
Andreas
On 11/15/2010 8:47 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
So far, I have write-protected the openSUSE ambassador list in the openSUSE wiki and ask all ambassadors to write me first - and then send them the questioniare and introduce them here as new ambassadors.
Therefore I'm basically the first contact and greeter for them ;)
I'd like to pass this job on to somebody else - or a small team - since it takes me far too long to handle these requests.
If you're interested, please speak up!
Andreas
Andreas,
I could definitely give this a shot since editing the wiki and a few other things have taken a backseat to some other issues.
Let me know what needs to be done and what the requirements/needed information are etc and I'll let you know if its something I can lend a hand with.
-Matt
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Andreas Jaeger aj@novell.com wrote:
So far, I have write-protected the openSUSE ambassador list in the openSUSE wiki and ask all ambassadors to write me first - and then send them the questioniare and introduce them here as new ambassadors.
Therefore I'm basically the first contact and greeter for them ;)
I'd like to pass this job on to somebody else - or a small team - since it takes me far too long to handle these requests.
If you're interested, please speak up!
Andreas
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AJ,
I love to do it. Just let me know.
Chuck "Terror PUP" Payne
+1 for small team
Em Seg, 2010-11-15 às 08:58 -0500, Chuck Payne escreveu:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Andreas Jaeger aj@novell.com wrote:
So far, I have write-protected the openSUSE ambassador list in the openSUSE wiki and ask all ambassadors to write me first - and then send them the questioniare and introduce them here as new ambassadors.
Therefore I'm basically the first contact and greeter for them ;)
I'd like to pass this job on to somebody else - or a small team - since it takes me far too long to handle these requests.
If you're interested, please speak up!
Andreas
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AJ,
I love to do it. Just let me know.
Chuck "Terror PUP" Payne
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Dear All,
Yeah! good idea, it was pleasant to take part... I' can be the good one to be chosen as i will be online 18hrs a day.:P
With Regards, Ravindra. http://www.opensuse.org/user:rahacks
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Carlos Ribeiro carlosalberto.net@gmail.com wrote:
+1 for small team
Em Seg, 2010-11-15 às 08:58 -0500, Chuck Payne escreveu:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Andreas Jaeger aj@novell.com wrote:
So far, I have write-protected the openSUSE ambassador list in the openSUSE wiki and ask all ambassadors to write me first - and then send them the questioniare and introduce them here as new ambassadors.
Therefore I'm basically the first contact and greeter for them ;)
I'd like to pass this job on to somebody else - or a small team - since it takes me far too long to handle these requests.
If you're interested, please speak up!
Andreas
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AJ,
I love to do it. Just let me know.
Chuck "Terror PUP" Payne
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Hi,
I would like to assist you in this situation.
And i think a team (3, 4 ) is better than assigning one person.
Cheeeeerz
I could help to and I agree with Buddhika, a team is better
Kostas
2010/11/15 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera bckurera@fossuser.lk:
Hi,
I would like to assist you in this situation.
And i think a team (3, 4 ) is better than assigning one person.
Cheeeeerz
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On Monday 15 November 2010 16:14:17 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
I could help to and I agree with Buddhika, a team is better
Ok, so let's create a small team. I have as volunteers: Buddhika, Kostas, Chuck, Matt - and I think that's a large enough team.
What needs to be done? The workflow right now is (let's use Frank as fictional character):
* Frank wants to join openSUSE as ambassador * Frank reads http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors_list which tells him to contact myself to become an ambasador. * Frank sends me an email * I send Frank an email with the questionaire * Frank answers * I check that Frank has created a user page in the English wiki * I briefly go over the questionaire * I send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador * I send an email to opensuse-ambassadors and welcome Frank as new ambassador and attach the questionaire * I add Frank as ambassador the the wiki list and adjust number of ambassadors/countries as appropriate. * I also answer questions Frank has regarding beining an ambassador and take care to ship him e.g. PromoDVDs.
That's it ;)
Do you want to do something similar? Then I suggest you discuss how to handle this, e.g. where should Frank email to (e.g. directly to the ambassador list and you do everything public?) etc. - and tell me where you need my help in setting this up, e.g. rights in the wiki.
Andreas
We can add a couple of things like pointing them to pages such as Marketing Materials, Artwork or in short create an ambassador welcome kit. I will be willing to help in this if it sounds a good idea to you guys.
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 12:39 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2010 16:14:17 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
I could help to and I agree with Buddhika, a team is better
Ok, so let's create a small team. I have as volunteers: Buddhika, Kostas, Chuck, Matt - and I think that's a large enough team.
What needs to be done? The workflow right now is (let's use Frank as fictional character):
- Frank wants to join openSUSE as ambassador
- Frank reads http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors_list which tells him
to contact myself to become an ambasador.
- Frank sends me an email
- I send Frank an email with the questionaire
- Frank answers
- I check that Frank has created a user page in the English wiki
- I briefly go over the questionaire
- I send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador
- I send an email to opensuse-ambassadors and welcome Frank as new ambassador
and attach the questionaire
- I add Frank as ambassador the the wiki list and adjust number of
ambassadors/countries as appropriate.
- I also answer questions Frank has regarding beining an ambassador and take
care to ship him e.g. PromoDVDs.
That's it ;)
Do you want to do something similar? Then I suggest you discuss how to handle this, e.g. where should Frank email to (e.g. directly to the ambassador list and you do everything public?) etc. - and tell me where you need my help in setting this up, e.g. rights in the wiki.
Andreas
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Hi all,
I have some ideas in my mind, please take these when making the final procedure. I ll note my ideas in the current process. I like to suggest a mentoring process, the selected group can do it. Adopt it if it is good.
* Frank wants to join openSUSE as ambassador => [No Modifications]
* Frank reads http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors_list which tells him to contact myself to become an ambassador. => [Modifications - The procedure should be revised as noted below ]
* Frank sends AJ an email => [Modifications - Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it is good the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
* AJ send Frank an email with the questionnaire => [Modifications - one from the team should contact Frank as they are available and send the questioner to Frank PLUS he investigate the Frank's contribution/ commitment to openSUSE when Frank answers]
* Frank answers => [Modifications - Frank answers to the question directly to the mentor plus the list PLUS answers to the additional info requested by the mentor]
* AJ check that Frank has created a user page in the English wiki => [Modifications -Mentor should check the user page and other things]
* AJ briefly go over the questionnaire => [Modifications - The mentor should go through the questionnaire thoroughly and send the mentors recommendation to the list]
* AJ send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador => [Modifications - AJ consider the recommendation and put green color to add Frank ]
* AJ send an email to opensuse-ambassadors and welcome Frank as new ambassador and attach the questionnaire => [NO Modifications - ]
* AJ add Frank as ambassador the the wiki list and adjust number of ambassadors/countries as appropriate. => [Modifications - one from the team (the mentor) can do this or AJ can handle it if he is ok]
* AJ also answer questions Frank has regarding beining an ambassador and take care to ship him e.g. PromoDVDs. => [NO Modifications - ]
** Frank can contact the mentor anytime and get needed info and the same time the mentor can guide him too. Cos i saw some inactive accounts, the inactive person should be monitored and make them work towards the openSUSE. PLUS I assume the people join knows little about openSUSE, procedure and all. Therefore it is good if some one guide them and if they have no target assign targets by discussing with them, that would be really effective anyway.
Those modifications help to reduce work load on AJ plus ensure the correct person (having passion) is on the board.
Thanks for reading the long mail :) -- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:27:37 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
[...]
- AJ send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador => [Modifications
- AJ consider the recommendation
and put green color to add Frank ]
Please create a process that does not involve me ;) I trust you that you do the right thing ;)
Andreas
Am Donnerstag 18 November 2010, 11:39:29 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:27:37 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
[...]
- AJ send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador => [Modifications
- AJ consider the recommendation
and put green color to add Frank ]
Please create a process that does not involve me ;) I trust you that you do the right thing ;)
mmh,find it since days funny, does the old process not work? For what a new one? Only take care of ur work was the question wasnt it?
I can take care of most of it, only DVD outsending u have to find someone inhouse SUSE Linux. We can make that like FLISOL, I can give that person the cleaned requests.
br gnokii
Andreas
On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:35:59 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Donnerstag 18 November 2010, 11:39:29 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:27:37 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera
wrote:
[...]
- AJ send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador =>
[Modifications - AJ consider the recommendation and put green color to add Frank ]
Please create a process that does not involve me ;) I trust you that you do the right thing ;)
mmh,find it since days funny, does the old process not work? For what a new one? Only take care of ur work was the question wasnt it?
The idea in the discussion here was that a small team takes care of the whole process and that's something I like - let's not create too many single point of failures.
I can take care of most of it, only DVD outsending u have to find someone inhouse SUSE Linux. We can make that like FLISOL, I can give that person the cleaned requests.
DVD sending is the one part that Novell has to do - indeed, Andreas
Am Freitag 19 November 2010, 10:48:52 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:35:59 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Donnerstag 18 November 2010, 11:39:29 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:27:37 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera
wrote:
[...]
- AJ send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador =>
[Modifications - AJ consider the recommendation and put green color to add Frank ]
Please create a process that does not involve me ;) I trust you that you do the right thing ;)
mmh,find it since days funny, does the old process not work? For what a new one? Only take care of ur work was the question wasnt it?
The idea in the discussion here was that a small team takes care of the whole process and that's something I like - let's not create too many single point of failures.
yeah u are right let us better create a band of failure makers. We had a feature screening team before and what happend? Same on membership team, hear more and more they dont work.
Failures comes from big fat senseless processes like its created now!!!!
yeah let us make that more and more complicated, then we have all more work to do, yeah but we are a team and the other one does the job.
br gnokii
I can take care of most of it, only DVD outsending u have to find someone inhouse SUSE Linux. We can make that like FLISOL, I can give that person the cleaned requests.
DVD sending is the one part that Novell has to do - indeed, Andreas
On Friday 19 November 2010 11:14:38 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Freitag 19 November 2010, 10:48:52 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:35:59 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Donnerstag 18 November 2010, 11:39:29 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:27:37 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera
wrote:
[...]
- AJ send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador =>
[Modifications - AJ consider the recommendation and put green color to add Frank ]
Please create a process that does not involve me ;) I trust you that you do the right thing ;)
mmh,find it since days funny, does the old process not work? For what a new one? Only take care of ur work was the question wasnt it?
The idea in the discussion here was that a small team takes care of the whole process and that's something I like - let's not create too many single point of failures.
yeah u are right let us better create a band of failure makers. We had a feature screening team before and what happend?
We had no tool support for the feature team and therefore it died.
Same on membership team, hear more and more they dont work.
It all depends on the people in it.
Failures comes from big fat senseless processes like its created now!!!!
I don't see anything senseless in what I've done so far - and I see the same process followed and additionally more information made available for new ambassadors which I consider a good thing.
yeah let us make that more and more complicated, then we have all more work to do, yeah but we are a team and the other one does the job.
I agree, it should not be more complicated - neither for the new ambassadors nor for us. But a warm welcome and some good information at the beginning might make the difference between an engaged and active ambassador and somebody that soon leaves the ambassy without anybody noticing...
I don't think the team should be too large - since in a too large team nobody feels responsible. Still, Sirko, if you're interested, sign up for the team, you're welcome,
Andreas
2010/11/19 Andreas Jaeger aj@novell.com:
On Friday 19 November 2010 11:14:38 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Freitag 19 November 2010, 10:48:52 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:35:59 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Donnerstag 18 November 2010, 11:39:29 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:27:37 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera
wrote:
[...]
- AJ send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador =>
[Modifications - AJ consider the recommendation and put green color to add Frank ]
Please create a process that does not involve me ;) I trust you that you do the right thing ;)
mmh,find it since days funny, does the old process not work? For what a new one? Only take care of ur work was the question wasnt it?
The idea in the discussion here was that a small team takes care of the whole process and that's something I like - let's not create too many single point of failures.
yeah u are right let us better create a band of failure makers. We had a feature screening team before and what happend?
We had no tool support for the feature team and therefore it died.
Same on membership team, hear more and more they dont work.
It all depends on the people in it.
Failures comes from big fat senseless processes like its created now!!!!
What process of the above do you find big fat senseless exactly? I believe that we are here to make suggestions on how to make things better and instead of characterize the others proposals, make a better one or tell him/her why its proposal is big fat senseless.I honestly speaking really appreciate your work but I cannot leave you compromise mine, or anyone’s else,it's not fair.
I don't see anything senseless in what I've done so far - and I see the same process followed and additionally more information made available for new ambassadors which I consider a good thing.
yeah let us make that more and more complicated, then we have all more work to do, yeah but we are a team and the other one does the job.
I agree, it should not be more complicated - neither for the new ambassadors nor for us. But a warm welcome and some good information at the beginning might make the difference between an engaged and active ambassador and somebody that soon leaves the ambassy without anybody noticing...
I don't think the team should be too large - since in a too large team nobody feels responsible. Still, Sirko, if you're interested, sign up for the team, you're welcome,
Andreas
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On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Andreas Jaeger aj@novell.com wrote:
On Monday 15 November 2010 16:14:17 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
I could help to and I agree with Buddhika, a team is better
Ok, so let's create a small team. I have as volunteers: Buddhika, Kostas, Chuck, Matt - and I think that's a large enough team.
What needs to be done? The workflow right now is (let's use Frank as fictional character):
- Frank wants to join openSUSE as ambassador
- Frank reads http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors_list which tells him
to contact myself to become an ambasador.
- Frank sends me an email
- I send Frank an email with the questionaire
- Frank answers
- I check that Frank has created a user page in the English wiki
- I briefly go over the questionaire
- I send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador
- I send an email to opensuse-ambassadors and welcome Frank as new ambassador
and attach the questionaire
- I add Frank as ambassador the the wiki list and adjust number of
ambassadors/countries as appropriate.
- I also answer questions Frank has regarding beining an ambassador and take
care to ship him e.g. PromoDVDs.
That's it ;)
Do you want to do something similar? Then I suggest you discuss how to handle this, e.g. where should Frank email to (e.g. directly to the ambassador list and you do everything public?) etc. - and tell me where you need my help in setting this up, e.g. rights in the wiki.
Andreas
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I think we should also point out the chat room and social media groups they should join to get help. But sounds good.
I believe we can have a kind of online workflow to help us with some parts of the process, see bellow.
Em Qua, 2010-11-17 às 12:39 +0100, Andreas Jaeger escreveu:
On Monday 15 November 2010 16:14:17 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
I could help to and I agree with Buddhika, a team is better
Ok, so let's create a small team. I have as volunteers: Buddhika, Kostas, Chuck, Matt - and I think that's a large enough team.
Hey! let be my name appear on that list, please
What needs to be done? The workflow right now is (let's use Frank as fictional character):
- Frank wants to join openSUSE as ambassador
- Frank reads http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors_list which tells him
to contact myself to become an ambasador.
- Frank sends me an email
Frank fulfill an on-line request form at Ambassadors Portal
- I send Frank an email with the questionnaires
Frank receive an link pointing for a questionnaire as response for completed Ambassador request membership form
- Frank answers
online
- I check that Frank has created a user page in the English wiki
- I briefly go over the questionaire
- I send Frank an email welcoming him as ambassador
You send an link to the Ambassadors Welcome landing page that could be inside our Ambassadors Portal with tons of information's to guide these new ambassadors with the first steps
- I send an email to opensuse-ambassadors and welcome Frank as new ambassador
and attach the questionaire
- I add Frank as ambassador the the wiki list and adjust number of
ambassadors/countries as appropriate.
- I also answer questions Frank has regarding beining an ambassador and take
care to ship him e.g. PromoDVDs.
That's it ;)
Do you want to do something similar? Then I suggest you discuss how to handle this, e.g. where should Frank email to (e.g. directly to the ambassador list and you do everything public?) etc. - and tell me where you need my help in setting this up, e.g. rights in the wiki.
Andreas
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Dear All,
I too agree with that the ambassadors should have some more specific portal with gallerias, event schedules, meeting, regional based groups and so on. we can have a meeting and discuss about all.
Those things should be regularly monitored and guide them to achieve targets.
I think then we can get more support from them then, organizing regional group is the best thing we can do to make the process smoother. Coz handling small group is far better and efficient than for going with large scale.
Creating promotion items, business cards, portals, email address can also effect the people too. :)
Well a lot of interesting proposals were made here and all are at least good ideas. At the bottom line I think that after we decide how we will replace temporarily Andreas we can work as a team all that time and decide-finalize the procedure about the ambassadors and then make a proposal with our ideas, what do you think about it? Kostas 'warlordfff' Koudaras
2010/11/17 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera bckurera@fossuser.lk:
Dear All,
I too agree with that the ambassadors should have some more specific portal with gallerias, event schedules, meeting, regional based groups and so on. we can have a meeting and discuss about all.
Those things should be regularly monitored and guide them to achieve targets.
I think then we can get more support from them then, organizing regional group is the best thing we can do to make the process smoother. Coz handling small group is far better and efficient than for going with large scale.
Creating promotion items, business cards, portals, email address can also effect the people too. :)
-- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Hello again,
Yes indeed lots of interesting ideas have been received now I have a few proposals in my mind.
1. The Ambassador lead team as I would like to call it decides who is an active / passive member. 2. The question is how do we decide that an ambassador is active. What would we consider to treat them as active? This should also serve as duties of an ambassador or a set of guidelines which should be included in the welcome kit so that even a clueless ambassador is clear about what he needs to do 3. I would like everyone who applies as an ambassador to be given a chance 4. Every ambassador gets a feed at the planet, I am not sure if admins are ok with it 5. Everyone the marketing team and the ambassador team helps out the ambassador to the best of their capacity not just the Ambassador lead team.
Q . How does an ambassador apply? Ans I suggest lets create a wiki page and the ambassador lead team watches over it anytime a change is made, they are notified via email and then then any questionnaire which the ambassador lead team creates so that they can be introduced to the community.
Q. Purpose of Welcome Kit / What should the welcome kit contain Ans - * Introduction to the Ambassador Lead team * Clearly define what are the roles of the ambasador to him, so that he is not in doubt which may include Events, Talks, Install Fests, Blogging, social media etc * Point him to the right wiki pages that will help him ie our ambassador, marketing and artwork portals * Point him to the social media where he can help everyone. * Point him to irc channels etc This should be a one time work and should not vary for ambassador to ambassador * Show him the incharge person to ask for DVDs / promo stuff
In the past few months some of us have wanted to remove passive ambassadors so if we decide to do that we have no metrics of doing that except for reports. I think we should have introduce some new metrics again * Offcourse, reports are integral part of the metric * I would like the amount they blog / articles about openSUSE, even a few nice blogs makes a lot of difference * How active they are in our social media portals like facebook / linkedin / whatever we have.
I am throwing such a lot of stuff because I think we have a lot of people willing to help and mentor people. This cant be a one man job as time is not infinite for all of us
Regards Manu
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 23:13 +0200, Kostas Koudaras wrote:
Well a lot of interesting proposals were made here and all are at least good ideas. At the bottom line I think that after we decide how we will replace temporarily Andreas we can work as a team all that time and decide-finalize the procedure about the ambassadors and then make a proposal with our ideas, what do you think about it? Kostas 'warlordfff' Koudaras
2010/11/17 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera bckurera@fossuser.lk:
Dear All,
I too agree with that the ambassadors should have some more specific portal with gallerias, event schedules, meeting, regional based groups and so on. we can have a meeting and discuss about all.
Those things should be regularly monitored and guide them to achieve targets.
I think then we can get more support from them then, organizing regional group is the best thing we can do to make the process smoother. Coz handling small group is far better and efficient than for going with large scale.
Creating promotion items, business cards, portals, email address can also effect the people too. :)
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Thanks for your efforts to improve the Ambassador program.
Manu Gupta wrote:
- The Ambassador lead team as I would like to call it decides who is an
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active / passive member. 2. The question is how do we decide that an ambassador is active.
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Although it is a little bit off-topic, one thing I've concerned is that Ambassador(s) and ambassador(s) are often used all jumbled up. ~ ~
Since the word 'ambassador' is a general noun, I think we should describe 'openSUSE Ambassador(s)' or in short 'Ambassador(s)' (capitalize the first letter of the word) in order to specify its meaning, at least on *official* media such as Wiki pages and announcements.
Best,
On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:56:59 Manu Gupta wrote:
Hello again,
Yes indeed lots of interesting ideas have been received now I have a few proposals in my mind.
- The Ambassador lead team as I would like to call it decides who is an
active / passive member. 2. The question is how do we decide that an ambassador is active. What would we consider to treat them as active? This should also serve as duties of an ambassador or a set of guidelines which should be included in the welcome kit so that even a clueless ambassador is clear about what he needs to do 3. I would like everyone who applies as an ambassador to be given a chance 4. Every ambassador gets a feed at the planet, I am not sure if admins are ok with it
No problem with that - see the planet openSUSE.
- Everyone the marketing team and the ambassador team helps out the
ambassador to the best of their capacity not just the Ambassador lead team.
But I expect that team to take the lead ;)
Q . How does an ambassador apply? Ans I suggest lets create a wiki page and the ambassador lead team watches over it anytime a change is made, they are notified via email and then then any questionnaire which the ambassador lead team creates so that they can be introduced to the community.
Let's talk with Pavol whether we can use connect.opensuse.org for this in the future. It handles group membership and we could create an "Ambassadors" group and have the team approve joining it - and then take care of the rest. connect is not ready yet but we could tell the team what we need from them so that once connect is ready, we can use it.
Q. Purpose of Welcome Kit / What should the welcome kit contain Ans - * Introduction to the Ambassador Lead team
- Clearly define what are the roles of the ambasador to him, so that
he
is not in doubt which may include Events, Talks, Install Fests, Blogging, social media etc
- Point him to the right wiki pages that will help him ie our
ambassador, marketing and artwork portals
- Point him to the social media where he can help everyone.
- Point him to irc channels etc
This should be a one time work and should not vary for ambassador to ambassador
- Show him the incharge person to ask for DVDs / promo stuff
Sounds fine.
In the past few months some of us have wanted to remove passive ambassadors so if we decide to do that we have no metrics of doing that except for reports. I think we should have introduce some new metrics again
- Offcourse, reports are integral part of the metric
- I would like the amount they blog / articles about openSUSE, even a
few nice blogs makes a lot of difference
- How active they are in our social media portals like facebook /
linkedin / whatever we have.
Let's not be too strict on this for now - but yes, we should have a list of active members...
Andreas
Hi all,
I revised my suggestion with no AJ as he instructed above :)
THIS IS THE MODIFIED NEW PROCESS (Suggestion ONLY)
* Frank wants to join openSUSE as ambassador.
* Frank reads the new procedure on the wiki.
* Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it is good the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
* one from the team should contact Frank as they are available and asap and send the questioner to Frank PLUS that person should investigate the Frank's contribution/ commitment to openSUSE when Frank answers
* Frank answers to the question directly to the mentor plus the list PLUS answers to the additional info requested by the mentor.
* Mentor should check the user page and other things after the he got answers.
* The mentor should go through the questionnaire thoroughly and send the mentors recommendation to the list
* Mentor send an email to opensuse-ambassadors and welcome Frank as new ambassador. Mentor send welcome pack to Frank.
* Mentor add Frank as ambassador the the wiki list and adjust number of ambassadors/countries as appropriate.
* AJ take care to ship him e.g. PromoDVDs.
** Frank can contact the mentor anytime and get needed info and the same time the mentor can guide him too. Cos i saw some inactive accounts, the inactive person should be monitored and make them work towards the openSUSE (i m nt talking about firing them). PLUS I assume the people join knows little about openSUSE, procedure and all. Therefore it is good if some one guide them and if they have no target assign targets by discussing with them, that would be really effective anyway.
Those modifications help to reduce work load on AJ plus ensure the correct person (having passion) is on the board.
Mentor is the person who manage the process(responsible) others also can join and improve the quality. This is not a one-man job :)
Thanks for reading the long mail :)
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:13 +0530, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Hi all,
I revised my suggestion with no AJ as he instructed above :)
THIS IS THE MODIFIED NEW PROCESS (Suggestion ONLY)
Frank wants to join openSUSE as ambassador.
Frank reads the new procedure on the wiki.
Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it is good
the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
- one from the team should contact Frank as they are available and asap
and send the questioner to Frank PLUS that person should investigate the Frank's contribution/ commitment to openSUSE when Frank answers
Lets not investigate lets take him/her. My opinion because he may or may not have experience and would like to contribute
- Frank answers to the question directly to the mentor plus the
list PLUS answers to the additional info requested by the mentor.
Mentor should check the user page and other things after the he got answers.
The mentor should go through the questionnaire thoroughly and send the
mentors recommendation to the list
- Mentor send an email to opensuse-ambassadors and welcome Frank as
new ambassador. Mentor send welcome pack to Frank.
- Mentor add Frank as ambassador the the wiki list and adjust number of
ambassadors/countries as appropriate.
- AJ take care to ship him e.g. PromoDVDs.
** Frank can contact the mentor anytime and get needed info and the same time the mentor can guide him too. Cos i saw some inactive accounts, the inactive person should be monitored and make them work towards the openSUSE (i m nt talking about firing them). PLUS I assume the people join knows little about openSUSE, procedure and all. Therefore it is good if some one guide them and if they have no target assign targets by discussing with them, that would be really effective anyway.
+1 I was not even firing them ;) But there are issues like how do we make them work and stuff like that.
Believe me I used UBUNTU and was converted to openSUSE once I became its ambassador and it has been my love since then ;)
Those modifications help to reduce work load on AJ plus ensure the correct person (having passion) is on the board.
Mentor is the person who manage the process(responsible) others also can join and improve the quality. This is not a one-man job :)
+1000 For not being a one job
Thanks for reading the long mail :)
phew ;)
-- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka
Hi,
@Manu : Ok then no investigations :)
But mentor should guide newbies towards the opeSUSE projects considering his favor too. Coz mentor is the person who knows about projects and the way they behave.
Then it is possible to get some better contribution from them :).
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:42 +0530, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Hi,
@Manu : Ok then no investigations :)
But mentor should guide newbies towards the opeSUSE projects considering his favor too. Coz mentor is the person who knows about projects and the way they behave.
Yes mentor in my opinion should be any person who knows stuff but then dont make it one man thing :)
Then it is possible to get some better contribution from them :).
2010/11/19 Manu Gupta manugupt1@gmail.com:
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:13 +0530, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Hi all,
I revised my suggestion with no AJ as he instructed above :)
THIS IS THE MODIFIED NEW PROCESS (Suggestion ONLY)
Frank wants to join openSUSE as ambassador.
Frank reads the new procedure on the wiki.
Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it is good
the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
You are talking about a list,can you tell me what list do you mean?
- one from the team should contact Frank as they are available and asap
and send the questioner to Frank PLUS that person should investigate the Frank's contribution/ commitment to openSUSE when Frank answers
Lets not investigate lets take him/her. My opinion because he may or may not have experience and would like to contribute
- Frank answers to the question directly to the mentor plus the
list PLUS answers to the additional info requested by the mentor.
- Mentor should check the user page and other things after the he got answers.
*Mentor helps the potential Ambassador to correct his/hers user page if possible and even helps him/her to create one,if needed
- The mentor should go through the questionnaire thoroughly and send the
mentors recommendation to the list
- Mentor send an email to opensuse-ambassadors and welcome Frank as
new ambassador. Mentor send welcome pack to Frank.
- Mentor add Frank as ambassador the the wiki list and adjust number of
ambassadors/countries as appropriate.
- AJ take care to ship him e.g. PromoDVDs.
** Frank can contact the mentor anytime and get needed info and the same time the mentor can guide him too. Cos i saw some inactive accounts, the inactive person should be monitored and make them work towards the openSUSE (i m nt talking about firing them). PLUS I assume the people join knows little about openSUSE, procedure and all. Therefore it is good if some one guide them and if they have no target assign targets by discussing with them, that would be really effective anyway.
+1 I was not even firing them ;) But there are issues like how do we make them work and stuff like that.
Believe me I used UBUNTU and was converted to openSUSE once I became its ambassador and it has been my love since then ;)
Those modifications help to reduce work load on AJ plus ensure the correct person (having passion) is on the board.
Mentor is the person who manage the process(responsible) others also can join and improve the quality. This is not a one-man job :)
+1000 For not being a one job
Thanks for reading the long mail :)
phew ;)
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On Friday 19 November 2010 15:00:42 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
- Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it is
good the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
You are talking about a list,can you tell me what list do you mean?
What about opensuse-ambassadors?
Andreas
- Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it is
good the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
You are talking about a list,can you tell me what list do you mean?
What about opensuse-ambassadors?
YES opensuse-ambassadors mailing list I meant. :)
Am Freitag 19 November 2010, 16:19:01 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Friday 19 November 2010 15:00:42 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
- Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it is
good the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
You are talking about a list,can you tell me what list do you mean?
What about opensuse-ambassadors?
AJ now its enough with this! creating a team means, they have to communicate. For this they need an extra ml, for me is that bullshit that some here means to welcome every ambassadors via mailinglist enough stupid mail.
Sometimes its better to use KISS
find that regulatory defining here really funny
br gnokii
Andreas
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:41 +0100, S.Kemter wrote:
Am Freitag 19 November 2010, 16:19:01 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Friday 19 November 2010 15:00:42 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
- Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it is
good the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
You are talking about a list,can you tell me what list do you mean?
What about opensuse-ambassadors?
AJ now its enough with this! creating a team means, they have to communicate. For this they need an extra ml, for me is that bullshit that some here means to welcome every ambassadors via mailinglist enough stupid mail.
Please read carefully just that it said a list and later Buddhika clarified it to be ambassador ML :)
Sometimes its better to use KISS
Yes
find that regulatory defining here really funny
br gnokii
Andreas
On Friday 19 November 2010 16:41:17 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Freitag 19 November 2010, 16:19:01 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Friday 19 November 2010 15:00:42 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
- Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it
is good the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
You are talking about a list,can you tell me what list do you mean?
What about opensuse-ambassadors?
AJ now its enough with this! creating a team means, they have to communicate. For this they need an extra ml, for me is that bullshit that some here means to welcome every ambassadors via mailinglist enough stupid mail.
Gnokii, what I've seen here on the list are good examples where people step up and want to help new ambassadors and mentor them - and I applaud that.
Sometimes its better to use KISS
Yes, that's why I like their suggestion to make this as open as possible and not restrict it to the team.
find that regulatory defining here really funny
What kind of regulatory defining?
Are there others that share Gnokii's feeling? If yes, let's look at alternatives and see which ones are better...
Andreas
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Andreas Jaeger aj@novell.com wrote:
On Friday 19 November 2010 16:41:17 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Freitag 19 November 2010, 16:19:01 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
On Friday 19 November 2010 15:00:42 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
- Frank should sent an email to the list, noting his request, it
is good the team can have people from different areas of the world, APAC etc ]
You are talking about a list,can you tell me what list do you mean?
What about opensuse-ambassadors?
AJ now its enough with this! creating a team means, they have to communicate. For this they need an extra ml, for me is that bullshit that some here means to welcome every ambassadors via mailinglist enough stupid mail.
Gnokii, what I've seen here on the list are good examples where people step up and want to help new ambassadors and mentor them - and I applaud that.
Sometimes its better to use KISS
Yes, that's why I like their suggestion to make this as open as possible and not restrict it to the team.
find that regulatory defining here really funny
What kind of regulatory defining?
Are there others that share Gnokii's feeling? If yes, let's look at alternatives and see which ones are better...
Andreas
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No, I don't. I think a team would be great. So far, no not doing anything people are taking actions. Which is great.
Hi Guys
I just had a talk with Jos and S Kemter and they have provided some suggestions which we should take into consideration as they are worth noting in my opinion
1. Ambassador Lead Team should be changed to Ambassador Welcome Team 2. This team should have a max of 2 members. Aj can decide who they are among the volunteers who asked to be in the team 3. We should not focus our strength on just this part however lucrative it sounds there are other issues too 3.1 We should find better ways to get events publicised, do some research and stuff like that 3.2 There are a lot of jobs in our Marketing Portal which can be carried out some of which include becoming liasons, which falls under ambassadorship imo
Opinions Guys
Regards Manu
Dear all,
Manu +1 &
*I feel there must be a common protocol instead of having Regional Teams. *"Currently Active" Ambassadors will act as a "Support Coordinators" for the new users. * There can be also some protocol like the new users/ contributors should select /get introduced to the Regional Teams via "Currently Active" Ambassadors. *when the new users get well acquainted with more information by the guidance of Active Ambassadors they can be now apply for Ambassadorship.now, the Active Ambassadors will recommend them for Ambassadorship of the new user with the Ambassadors Welcoming Team.
so the work flow will be:
New User -->Register through Portal -->Select an Active Ambassador (anyone) from portal -->Get information,training, support,from him --> Contribute to community --> now ask for recommendation from the selected active Ambassador --> now,Active Ambassador will forward his application to the Ambassador Welcoming Team ->> Mission Complete.
What do you say ???
Best Regards, Ravindra M
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Manu Gupta manugupt1@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Guys
I just had a talk with Jos and S Kemter and they have provided some suggestions which we should take into consideration as they are worth noting in my opinion
- Ambassador Lead Team should be changed to Ambassador Welcome Team
- This team should have a max of 2 members. Aj can decide who they are
among the volunteers who asked to be in the team 3. We should not focus our strength on just this part however lucrative it sounds there are other issues too 3.1 We should find better ways to get events publicised, do some research and stuff like that 3.2 There are a lot of jobs in our Marketing Portal which can be carried out some of which include becoming liasons, which falls under ambassadorship imo
Opinions Guys
Regards Manu
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Hi,
Strongly disagree with 2 ppl team, why 2 people, is there any reason?
AND like the name Ambassadors Welcoming Team, the team can get the responsibility then the process get tiny and nice.
-- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka
2010/11/19 Manu Gupta manugupt1@gmail.com:
Hi Guys
I just had a talk with Jos and S Kemter and they have provided some suggestions which we should take into consideration as they are worth noting in my opinion
- Ambassador Lead Team should be changed to Ambassador Welcome Team
That is ok with me.
- This team should have a max of 2 members. Aj can decide who they are
among the volunteers who asked to be in the team
I know that the work is not so much so 2 people can make it,but my opinion still stands for a small team and because as Buddhika said 'the team can get the responsibility then the process get tiny and nice'.If it is going to be a 2 member team I am not interesting in participating since there are people more capable from me for that job and the reason I wanted to participate in that team was to take my level of knowledge on that part a step further by co-operating with all you guys.
- We should not focus our strength on just this part however lucrative
it sounds there are other issues too.
Well,my opinion is that the part, where people want to become Ambassadors is one of the most important procedures in our community. It is the Starting point for someone who wants to interact with the openSUSE project and evolving that part is never enough.Apparently some of you see the importance of that,some others don't.Do what thou wilt and read 'openSUSE:Community references' and openSUSE:Strategy Community Statement at the wiki,again.
3.1 We should find better ways to get events publicised, do some research and stuff like that
Yes we should,I totally agree with you.
3.2 There are a lot of jobs in our Marketing Portal which can be carried out some of which include becoming liasons, which falls under ambassadorship imo
Take a look at that I just created and please let me know your opinion about it http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Events#Organize_a_booth
Opinions Guys
Regards Manu
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On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 14:48 +0200, Kostas Koudaras wrote:
2010/11/19 Manu Gupta manugupt1@gmail.com:
Hi Guys
I just had a talk with Jos and S Kemter and they have provided some suggestions which we should take into consideration as they are worth noting in my opinion
- Ambassador Lead Team should be changed to Ambassador Welcome Team
That is ok with me.
- This team should have a max of 2 members. Aj can decide who they are
among the volunteers who asked to be in the team
I know that the work is not so much so 2 people can make it,but my opinion still stands for a small team and because as Buddhika said 'the team can get the responsibility then the process get tiny and nice'.If it is going to be a 2 member team I am not interesting in participating since there are people more capable from me for that job and the reason I wanted to participate in that team was to take my level of knowledge on that part a step further by co-operating with all you guys.
I think the team spoke for themselves :)
- We should not focus our strength on just this part however lucrative
it sounds there are other issues too.
Well,my opinion is that the part, where people want to become Ambassadors is one of the most important procedures in our community. It is the Starting point for someone who wants to interact with the openSUSE project and evolving that part is never enough.Apparently some of you see the importance of that,some others don't.Do what thou wilt and read 'openSUSE:Community references' and openSUSE:Strategy Community Statement at the wiki,again.
3.1 We should find better ways to get events publicised, do someresearch and stuff like that
Yes we should,I totally agree with you.
3.2 There are a lot of jobs in our Marketing Portal which can becarried out some of which include becoming liasons, which falls under ambassadorship imo
Take a look at that I just created and please let me know your opinion about it http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Events#Organize_a_booth
Thanks a lot, a nice wiki write up :) I just bulletised all the points.
Opinions Guys
Regards Manu
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2010/11/20 Kostas Koudaras warlordfff@gmail.com:
2010/11/19 Manu Gupta manugupt1@gmail.com:
Hi Guys
I just had a talk with Jos and S Kemter and they have provided some suggestions which we should take into consideration as they are worth noting in my opinion
- Ambassador Lead Team should be changed to Ambassador Welcome Team
That is ok with me.
- This team should have a max of 2 members. Aj can decide who they are
among the volunteers who asked to be in the team
I know that the work is not so much so 2 people can make it,but my opinion still stands for a small team and because as Buddhika said 'the team can get the responsibility then the process get tiny and nice'.If it is going to be a 2 member team I am not interesting in participating since there are people more capable from me for that job and the reason I wanted to participate in that team was to take my level of knowledge on that part a step further by co-operating with all you guys.
- We should not focus our strength on just this part however lucrative
it sounds there are other issues too.
Well,my opinion is that the part, where people want to become Ambassadors is one of the most important procedures in our community. It is the Starting point for someone who wants to interact with the openSUSE project and evolving that part is never enough.Apparently some of you see the importance of that,some others don't.Do what thou wilt and read 'openSUSE:Community references' and openSUSE:Strategy Community Statement at the wiki,again.
3.1 We should find better ways to get events publicised, do some research and stuff like that
Yes we should,I totally agree with you.
3.2 There are a lot of jobs in our Marketing Portal which can be carried out some of which include becoming liasons, which falls under ambassadorship imo
Take a look at that I just created and please let me know your opinion about it http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Events#Organize_a_booth
This part is very important, so I'll take it as a guide to events and meetings.
Specifically we are planning a farewell meeting for this year and give away some DVD's and show some of the issues to new members.
I hope to inform and raise awareness of what is being done in our country.
Greetings
Opinions Guys
Regards Manu
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Back Again,
Yep! Hope this time I will have a chance to contribute more through role based.
Best Regards, Ravindra.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 4:34 AM, cheperobert jrobertoalas@gmail.com wrote:
2010/11/20 Kostas Koudaras warlordfff@gmail.com:
2010/11/19 Manu Gupta manugupt1@gmail.com:
Hi Guys
I just had a talk with Jos and S Kemter and they have provided some suggestions which we should take into consideration as they are worth noting in my opinion
- Ambassador Lead Team should be changed to Ambassador Welcome Team
That is ok with me.
- This team should have a max of 2 members. Aj can decide who they are
among the volunteers who asked to be in the team
I know that the work is not so much so 2 people can make it,but my opinion still stands for a small team and because as Buddhika said 'the team can get the responsibility then the process get tiny and nice'.If it is going to be a 2 member team I am not interesting in participating since there are people more capable from me for that job and the reason I wanted to participate in that team was to take my level of knowledge on that part a step further by co-operating with all you guys.
- We should not focus our strength on just this part however lucrative
it sounds there are other issues too.
Well,my opinion is that the part, where people want to become Ambassadors is one of the most important procedures in our community. It is the Starting point for someone who wants to interact with the openSUSE project and evolving that part is never enough.Apparently some of you see the importance of that,some others don't.Do what thou wilt and read 'openSUSE:Community references' and openSUSE:Strategy Community Statement at the wiki,again.
3.1 We should find better ways to get events publicised, do some research and stuff like that
Yes we should,I totally agree with you.
3.2 There are a lot of jobs in our Marketing Portal which can be carried out some of which include becoming liasons, which falls under ambassadorship imo
Take a look at that I just created and please let me know your opinion about it http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Events#Organize_a_booth
This part is very important, so I'll take it as a guide to events and meetings.
Specifically we are planning a farewell meeting for this year and give away some DVD's and show some of the issues to new members.
I hope to inform and raise awareness of what is being done in our country.
Greetings
Opinions Guys
Regards Manu
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On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Ravindra Aditya ravindra.novell@gmail.com wrote:
Back Again,
Yep! Hope this time I will have a chance to contribute more through role based.
Best Regards, Ravindra.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 4:34 AM, cheperobert jrobertoalas@gmail.com wrote:
2010/11/20 Kostas Koudaras warlordfff@gmail.com:
2010/11/19 Manu Gupta manugupt1@gmail.com:
Hi Guys
I just had a talk with Jos and S Kemter and they have provided some suggestions which we should take into consideration as they are worth noting in my opinion
- Ambassador Lead Team should be changed to Ambassador Welcome Team
That is ok with me.
- This team should have a max of 2 members. Aj can decide who they are
among the volunteers who asked to be in the team
I know that the work is not so much so 2 people can make it,but my opinion still stands for a small team and because as Buddhika said 'the team can get the responsibility then the process get tiny and nice'.If it is going to be a 2 member team I am not interesting in participating since there are people more capable from me for that job and the reason I wanted to participate in that team was to take my level of knowledge on that part a step further by co-operating with all you guys.
- We should not focus our strength on just this part however lucrative
it sounds there are other issues too.
Well,my opinion is that the part, where people want to become Ambassadors is one of the most important procedures in our community. It is the Starting point for someone who wants to interact with the openSUSE project and evolving that part is never enough.Apparently some of you see the importance of that,some others don't.Do what thou wilt and read 'openSUSE:Community references' and openSUSE:Strategy Community Statement at the wiki,again.
3.1 We should find better ways to get events publicised, do some research and stuff like that
Yes we should,I totally agree with you.
3.2 There are a lot of jobs in our Marketing Portal which can be carried out some of which include becoming liasons, which falls under ambassadorship imo
Take a look at that I just created and please let me know your opinion about it http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Events#Organize_a_booth
This part is very important, so I'll take it as a guide to events and meetings.
Specifically we are planning a farewell meeting for this year and give away some DVD's and show some of the issues to new members.
I hope to inform and raise awareness of what is being done in our country.
Greetings
Opinions Guys
Regards Manu
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What is the status of this? I know that I had Volunteers and was stated a a part of this team. But I also notice that page we work on all the team members that were selected were removed. Who are the people that make us this Ambassador Lead Team, this is a first of me to heard about this.
Can someone give a status.
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 11:03 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Thursday 18 November 2010 12:56:59 Manu Gupta wrote:
Hello again,
Yes indeed lots of interesting ideas have been received now I have a few proposals in my mind.
- The Ambassador lead team as I would like to call it decides who is an
active / passive member. 2. The question is how do we decide that an ambassador is active. What would we consider to treat them as active? This should also serve as duties of an ambassador or a set of guidelines which should be included in the welcome kit so that even a clueless ambassador is clear about what he needs to do 3. I would like everyone who applies as an ambassador to be given a chance 4. Every ambassador gets a feed at the planet, I am not sure if admins are ok with it
No problem with that - see the planet openSUSE.
- Everyone the marketing team and the ambassador team helps out the
ambassador to the best of their capacity not just the Ambassador lead team.
But I expect that team to take the lead ;)
Yes.. I would like to help to
Q . How does an ambassador apply? Ans I suggest lets create a wiki page and the ambassador lead team watches over it anytime a change is made, they are notified via email and then then any questionnaire which the ambassador lead team creates so that they can be introduced to the community.
Let's talk with Pavol whether we can use connect.opensuse.org for this in the future. It handles group membership and we could create an "Ambassadors" group and have the team approve joining it - and then take care of the rest. connect is not ready yet but we could tell the team what we need from them so that once connect is ready, we can use it.
Q. Purpose of Welcome Kit / What should the welcome kit contain Ans - * Introduction to the Ambassador Lead team
- Clearly define what are the roles of the ambasador to him, so that
he
is not in doubt which may include Events, Talks, Install Fests, Blogging, social media etc
- Point him to the right wiki pages that will help him ie our
ambassador, marketing and artwork portals
- Point him to the social media where he can help everyone.
- Point him to irc channels etc
This should be a one time work and should not vary for ambassador to ambassador
- Show him the incharge person to ask for DVDs / promo stuff
Sounds fine.
In the past few months some of us have wanted to remove passive ambassadors so if we decide to do that we have no metrics of doing that except for reports. I think we should have introduce some new metrics again
- Offcourse, reports are integral part of the metric
- I would like the amount they blog / articles about openSUSE, even a
few nice blogs makes a lot of difference
- How active they are in our social media portals like facebook /
linkedin / whatever we have.
Let's not be too strict on this for now - but yes, we should have a list of active members...
You are right
Andreas
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Btw. I still have a couple of ambassador candidates in my INBOX and processed those today and send them here. Some have not yet setup their user page, so I'm waiting until the user page is done and will then announce them...
Once the new setup is ready, I'll redirect everybody to the new way of doing it...
Andreas
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:18 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Btw. I still have a couple of ambassador candidates in my INBOX and processed those today and send them here. Some have not yet setup their user page, so I'm waiting until the user page is done and will then announce them...
Ok Thanks
Once the new setup is ready, I'll redirect everybody to the new way of doing it...
So once you are ready to transfer, let us know we will update the wiki
Andreas
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Hi, What is the wiki link Manu??
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 20:58 +0530, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Hi, What is the wiki link Manu??
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassador_kit
On Friday 19 November 2010 16:24:47 Manu Gupta wrote:
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:18 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Btw. I still have a couple of ambassador candidates in my INBOX and processed those today and send them here. Some have not yet setup their user page, so I'm waiting until the user page is done and will then announce them...
Ok Thanks
Once the new setup is ready, I'll redirect everybody to the new way of doing it...
So once you are ready to transfer, let us know we will update the wiki
I'm ready to transfer - but won't read much email over the weekend. I'm still feeling my cold ;-(.
I suggest that you start updating the wiki and we'll sort out anything from my side on Monday,
thanks, Andreas
Hi,
We have already started :) V ll finish the major editings on Monday then ok
Eg: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ambassadors
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