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Re: [opensuse] Mailinglist changes going forward - reiserfs
On 2018-06-14 12:03, Simon Lees wrote:


On 14/06/18 18:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-06-14 03:25, Simon Lees wrote:


On 13/06/18 22:44, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 12/06/18 04:10 AM, Richard Brown wrote:
Chaos is not following.

The implications of what you are saying is that we should be statistically
normal, that we should not be, should not pay attention to, the 'fringe'
cases
that 'test' the non-normative conditions.

Normative debates, as opposed to Empirical debates, are debates that
require
action on a specific topic and a model to implement the idea put forward
in the
topic, and, predominately, can be signified by the use of the word
'should' in
the topic.

Eventually, Richard, when all the argumentation is done, you are saying the
'Empiricists' have no value. That too is why openSuse is 'depreciating'
things
like ReiserFS, which has proven EXTREMELY reliable and demonstrates the
triumph
of good design than the 'cut it an see' iterations that depend on bugzilla
reports and fixes that are needed to make progress.


Ok i'll bite, openSUSE as a project did not deprecate ReiserFS, openSUSE
as a project does not deprecate any software. The openSUSE maintainer of
ReiserFS decided to deprecate ReiserFS as they did not want to maintain
it in openSUSE anymore. Should another qualified maintainer come along
and decide to step up and maintain ReiserFS it will no longer be
deprecated but unless someone does the work it won't exist. This is the
same for every piece of software in openSUSE.

No. Reiserfs was not deprecated. Someone modified YaST to refuse upgrade
if there are reiserfs partitions listed in fstab, but the kernel
supports reiserfs just fine.


Ok well that still wasn't a decision of the openSUSE project, that was a
decision that the yast developers didn't want to / have time to / have a
business case to add reiserfs support to the new yast storage module,
yast is open source if a developer was passionate enough about adding it
they may well accept contributions in this area.

No, you still misunderstand. There is no need at all to add reiserfs
support to yast.

Instead, they added a check to refuse upgrading at all, instead of just
ignoring the entry in fstab.

I have a multiboot system, and there are old installs in the disks that
were done back in the day using reiserfs, not affecting the system that
was being upgraded this time. The only thing that is needed is for fstab
to be left as is, and just show a warning that YaST does not support
reiserfs.

I upgraded the system with zypper dup instead to 15.0, which uses the
reiserfs partitions just fine.

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Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

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