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Re: [opensuse] Re: copy from encrypted system without password?
On 2016-05-02 00:22, John Andersen wrote:
On May 1, 2016 1:00:39 PM PDT, "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On 2016-05-01 20:12, John Andersen wrote:
On 05/01/2016 05:44 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
So you have to enter the pin code for phone service (it protects the
SIM
card), and the passphrase for the storage. Makes sense.

Almost nobody does that anymore. Its kind of pointless, since most
modern
phones don't store anything on the sim except tower connection data.

It used to be you could store your phone contacts there, but only 250
bare-bones contacts can be stored on the largest of sims, and phone
companies usually supply just the smallest size sim card. 35K.

There's just no point in protecting it these days.

Er... maybe you misunderstood: the "data" I refer to is not data on the
SIM, but on the storage card. The PIN protects the SIM; even if no data
is stored there, it protects the ability to connect to your phone
provider network, because there is a contract with money involved. You
could find yourself with the responsibility of having to pay a one
thousand dollars/euros bill for phone calls you did not do.


Maybe in your country.

Here, you notify your carrier that the phone was stolen, and they kill your
sim instantly. If you subsequently find the phone they give you a new sim
for free.

It doesn't have to be stolen. Anybody in your house, say, picks up the
phone while it is powered down, switches it on. As it doesn't have a PIN
on the SIM, it opens up. He/she places a call to his boy/girl friend
that is on a trip abroad; a 5 hours long-distance call. Then switches
off the phone. Or worse, he/she calls a sex toll phone (90x,
premium-rate telephone number) for hours. Or buys expensive apps.

You have to pay the bill. As you have no password (PIN) on the phone, it
is your fault entirely.


It is the same thing as having a PIN on credit cards. They don't store data.

Yes, of course you can block it once you know it has been stolen. So?
Depending on the contract or jurisdiction, you are only protected after
the report, not before.

--
Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

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