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Re: [opensuse] The community demands for Richard Brown to resign Now
  • From: ianseeks <ianseeks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 08:35:02 +0000
  • Message-id: <3376605.ZjOIt7MEy6@lianli>
On Sunday 27 Dec 2015 08:17:33 Andrew Wafaa wrote:
On 2015-12-26 23:31, Ruben Safir wrote:
The community demands for Richard Brown to resign Now for their
censorship of Carlos ER and their refusal to recognize the grievous
error they made. Their actions and explanations reflect the most
terrible abuses that any FLOSS group can abuse its users with and
therefore the must STEP DOWN NOW.

The decision to ban Carlos was not Richard's, it was the openSUSE Board
elected by members of the openSUSE project that decided. Those members
are people who are active within the project, helping drive the
innovation forward and ensuring that openSUSE stays competitive with our
peers. Those members have entrusted the Board to look after the best
interests of the project, and that is what they strive to do.

The Board received multiple complaints from openSUSE members about
Carlos' activity on the mailing lists, especially on opensuse-factory.
Several people have tried to explain that bombarding a mailing list with
emails which don't reflect the topic of the list - factory is for
Tumbleweed and developmental issues. Carlos believed he was doing no
wrong and continued to ignore people's public and private complaints.

I must admit that i never saw anything on the opensuse-factory list that
bothered me and i think that is the case for most people who disagree with the
I think Henne (?) did the right thing when the systemd threads got ridiculous
i.e. moderating and delaying the posts.

This is when the Board took the decision to give Carlos a warning, which
he also decided to ignore. We then voted on what action to take. That is
when the decision to ban Carlos came up. Several Board members felt a
much harder line should have been taken, Richard was actually one that
calmed some of us down - to be frankly honest I am one of those that
felt this is too weak.

If you would like some definitive action, may I suggest you walk the
talk instead of just firing your mouth off. Postulating like that
benefits no-one and those that actually care and roll their sleeves up
with contributions ignore much of these theatrics.

I think Ruben is making a point that he is being very vocal and contrary in
his opinion and he's still has not been banned for those self same reasons
being proffered for banning Carlos.
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