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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE-13.1: at 17:00 system begins thrashing: What is cause?

Am 20.11.2014 um 13:23 schrieb Anton Aylward:
On 11/19/2014 09:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
It is a "must have", to accommodate us home users that do not run our
machines 24*7. The alternative was to use anacron instead of cron, and I
think some distros do it that way.

Carlos makes an important point, one that aaron should have made.
It used to be that *NIX machines were 'always on', but now we are
dealing with machines that are turned on and off just like the old PCs.
Where is aaron? I don't hear him complaining about how Linux is
becoming more like Microsoft Windows? In this he might be able to make
a case, although this has NOTHING to do with systemd -- which is
probably why he's absenting himself. Either that or Henne is doing an
excellent job!

So I wonder. Yes, if the model is a PC replacement desktop, I can see
the logic. I don't like it, but I can see it. I don't like it because
I'm one of those people who leaves his machine turned on all the time.
I realise that for many people, especially those using laptops, this
isn't practical.

I have a (for my definition) quite powerful machine and two large screens. They consume energy also when in sleep mode. Even if I have times that I am working 8 to 12 hours on the computer, still most of the time it would consume this energy for nothing. This is why I turn all off with a switch in the cable after shutting down...

So I am quite happy that the system does its "things" although it cannot do it at any time.

<win comment>
The look and feel of linux, especially KDE, has really become more "windowish", although I think (with all sometimes annoying things) that now it's by far better than any win or mac UI (I /must/ work with all of them). The great advantage is, that I can let everybody sit on my computer and let them do their thing without even telling them that it's linux (and most of them don't notice). I really like that.

The big difference is still that I have control over the system (or at least I believe so ;-) ), while under win and mac the system has control over me. I just had to install some programs in them and found out that the installer (run as common user) can write files which I cannot remove. I took me hours to find those files and other hours to find a way to remove them. On linux it's all just some clicks...
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