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Re: [opensuse] Getting rid of systemd and putting sysv back
  • From: "Sam M." <backgroundprocess@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:24:58 -0700
  • Message-id: <CAJNjHW-P8u1VUD-FRhZ0t1axE98KJfjS1RQzaYvVTG7pk=zAdQ@mail.gmail.com>
The Systemd debate is reminiscent of the flamewars between Torvalds
and Tanenbaum over whose kernel was superior, and that's long over.
Just like the Systemd debate is over. Period. Dissidents always have
existed throughout history, and the people who won't adopt it or learn
to use it are exactly that. Systemd is not going away as all the major
distros have adopted it. Anyone can rant and rave, scream murder, wave
their arms, etc., but it's all falling on deaf ears, especially on
this email list. If you don't like Systemd, then you should program
your own system and service manager or start/use a distro which
doesn't use it. Obviously there were several major technically
superior advantages to going the Systemd route over System V. It's not
like Pottering used trickery and secret mind powers to get all the
major distros to adopt it. The Systemd "whiners" are a much more vocal
group of individuals on the internet as opposed to people who like
Systemd and are actually getting work done. Another thing to consider
is that many of the Systemd whiners don't have the programming skills
or appropriate job placement to leverage an alternative. Instead, they
act like 8 year olds whose toy got broken, and scream and cry, yet it
changes nothing. Like the psychopathic troll Dirk/Aaron; a perfect
example of a person who writes lots of nonsense and achieves
absolutely nothing. It's quite entertaining to me, to say the least.
Systemd is here to stay, like it or not.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:07 AM, jdd <jdd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Le 29/09/2014 18:55, Doug a écrit :

Until somebody answers the question. Give details as to how to get rid
of systemd and use sysv instead. Given the OS with systemd, how to get
rid of it and make it work with sysv. Anything else is a waste of
bandwidth.


you should ask on factory for a team to do the work, like kde3 fans did, why
not?

jdd

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