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Re: [opensuse] Getting rid of systemd and putting sysv back
On 09/28/2014 10:20 AM, David Haller wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
On 09/28/2014 07:18 PM, Dirk Gently wrote:
How about, an init system should not require 200 pages of documentation.

Just take in account that it's not just a init system.
An why isn't it? *That's* the core problem. Why is it an
interdependent jumble of binaries gobbling up daemons (udev, logging,

Exactly! Where does it end? When will systemd assimilate the kernel itself?
Then X11? Then the desktop environment? Might as well save the heartburn
and switch right now to Windows! One daemon to rule them all, and in the
darkness bind them...

When will the systemd proponents address the concerns that they are
ignoring most, if not all, of the basic UNIX/Linux tenets? This concern
has been brought up here many times, but I don't recall a rational
explanation, just name-calling and claims that it "boots faster". If
indeed it does boot faster, where's the return-on-investment cost

1. Small is beautiful
2. Make each program do one thing well
3. Build a prototype as soon as possible
4. Choose portability over efficiency
5. Store ASCII data in flat files
6. Use software leverage to your advantage
7. Use shell scripts to increase leverage and portability
8. Avoid captive user interfaces
9. Make very program a filter


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