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Re: [opensuse] optimizing resolv.conf
On 1/1/2014 12:27 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
My web browsers often seem to spend a lot of time reporting "looking up host
<blah>". I'd like to see less of that in 2014, and spend less
time watching nothing happen in the browser's viewport. seems to make sense, but it
includes no discussion of a local nameserver, such as the one
typically enabled by default in an internet router, only using Google IPs.
Anyone have anything to add or dispute what it says?

Are those using routers better off using the one it includes? Better off

Is there any convenient way to evaluate average response times from various

Are there logical reasons for avoiding Google's or other high visibility

Are there reasons why the servers provided by the ISP subscribed to shouldn't
be preferred?

Can anyone explain why the default timeout is 5s and not more or less? Is it
a holdover from times past when the internet was less busy, and
often less speedy via dialup or ISDN instead of broadband?

If you EVER see "looking up host" then, Yes, you have a problem, and yes
you should consider using some other servers.

I often see waiting for......, but never looking up.... I can't remember the
time I saw that for a site that ultimately resolved. If I do, its because
I fat-fingered they keyboard while typing a url.

I subscribe to, (they have a free service). It is very fast.
I have a fall back (secondary) of (google).

I think it has fallen over to google's server maybe once in all the years I've
been using them,
and that was for a scheduled outage.

Their servers are fast, at least as fast as googles. My ISP is spotty,
sometimes very good
but other times their servers become slow. My prior ISP was simply terrible.
That's what
lead me to look for alternatives.

I run my own in-house DNS server on opensuse, because I have a split horizon
for office machines.
Other wise, I would just code openDNS's IPs into the router, which is what I do
at home.
All my machines just point to my in-house server or the router for DNS, and
that means I only
have to change the settings in one place.

Opendns allows me to block a bunch of web ad servers so that I don't have to run
ad block on every browser on every machine.

Every once in a while I will reverse the order of the DNS servers to see the
and Google's servers are very fast, the the amount of ads on web pages goes up
by a lot
because they don't offer blocking. Where I really notice this is on tablets and
What I block via opendns is those ad agencies that underline random words on
any page
and trigger pop-ups each time your mouse crosses them. All of these creep
through Google's
servers, but not opendns.

The other reason I avoid Google is that I have no clue what they are doing with

As for why you would avoid your ISP's router, you answered that question before
asked it, because you should never see "looking up" messages in a browser.
(Well, ok, maybe on dial-up).

The time out of 5 seconds is traditional, and probably no longer warranted, but
over to your second server starts the process all over again, and there is no
to believe the secondary will be faster than the primary, since people usually
put the
fastest boxes as primary and the older boxes as secondaries. Forcing premature
fail-over to secondaries can be counter productive. (This is not a concern if
secondary is a different system, such as google).

Option Rotate does not always work (not honored by many systems, most small
routers, etc).

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