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Re: [opensuse] Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?
On 08/03/12 19:21, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Wednesday, March 07, 2012 16:12:14 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/03/12 00:30, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, March 06, 2012 14:03:40 Per Jessen wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
People are forgetting that openSUSE is the 'experimental' software
which the "lab bunnies" are given for free to test, to report on the
bugs et al, and have their patience and nerves stretched to the
limit and all done with the ultimate aim of producing SUSE.
Uhm, not quite:

"No, we're not - anymore - the testing ground, openSUSE is upstream
of SLES"
Thanks for citing me quickly. I was just going to refute Basil and
state that openSUSE is a distribution on its own.

Thank you, Andreas, for your response.

I realise that openSUSE is a distribution on it own now - well at least
since some recent time.

But then so are Ubuntu and Fedora and Mint and Debian and Red Hat
and......all are separate distributions :-) .

However, one cannot help noting the following entry in Wikipedia:


On April 27, 2011 Attachmate completed its acquisition of Novell.
Attachmate split Novell into two autonomous business units, Novell and
SUSE. Attachmate has no plans to change the relationship between SUSE
(formerly Novell) and the openSUSE project.


The question now needs to be asked and clarified: where does SLES fit in
- is it in the openSUSE "camp" or in the Novell/SUSE "camp"?
There is no Novell/SUSE anymore and thus no Novell/SUSE camp ;)

SUSE is the main sponsor of the openSUSE project. SUSE Linux Enterprise is
using openSUSE as it's upstream.


Thank you, Andreas, and sorry for the delayed response but family matters took priority (I buried my uncle recently and now the legal stuff about his will has hit the fan - even having lawyers and a judge in the family isn't helping :-( ).

This discussion is now becoming confusing and getting embroiled in semantics. My use of the " " around the word 'camp' was deliberate.

My original post referred to openSUSE and its users as being used as a testing ground for whatever turns up in (now called) SUSE. Per "refuted" this with a quote (which I considered to be misleading); but I responded to your post rather than to Per - in retrospect I now know that this was wrong.

While my choice of using the word "camp" was 'reckless' there are others who also consider that SUSE is the beneficiary of whatever improvements are first implemented in openSUSE. To me, at least, this justifies that what I said in my original post is correct. Here is a quote from an article:


In that vein, the new SUSE model is designed to bring the latest innovations customers often see in the OpenSUSE open source version first much faster to the commercially supported enterprise edition.


This quote comes from:

It may be worth getting 'your' PR department to let the journos know what the real situation is with respect to SUSE and openSUSE - but this is just my humble opinion.

Kind regards,


-- The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances, and the world consists chiefly of the vulgar.
Niccolo Machiavelli
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