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Re: [opensuse] Re: Should openSUSE review it's Security Policies?
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 10:01:32AM +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:

On Mar 1 17:27 Lars Müller wrote (excerpt):
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 02:53:26PM +0100, Johannes Meixner wrote:
If the use case is "printer setup on my own machine",
...
- The owner of the machine can do any configuration changes,
he only must provide THE password.

Even with a single user you might not like to share the root password.

Either I do not understand what you write or you do not
understand what I wrote.

You missed the point. See the later replies in this thread. Maybe you
get it or even not. For me this doesn't matter any longer.

Anyway it doesn't matter at all anyhow as all of us know how it is with
printing. It does fail much to often.

[ 8< ]
I don't know what a "pat cemetry" is - did you mean "cemetery"?
But what do you mean with "pat" in this case?

Sorry, I'll not try to joke with you again.

Sorry also for the completely incorrect spelling of the movie name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Sematary might enlight you.

These printing issues are annoying and coming back like zombies. That's
why I referenced the incorrectly spelled - shame on me! - movie.

Regardless what you actually meant, I think issues with FATE
are off-topic here.

No, I no longer care about printing. I have netcat and socat and am able
to feed the printers the three times per month I have to print
something.

[ 8< ]
What exactly is a "local user"?
Unix user accounts do not distinguish between "local" and "remote".

In the http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell you find a section
about 'Allow printer admin tasks for a normal user' I'm sorry for not
using the right wording. Maybe I must have used the term 'normal-user'
to allow you to follow the thought.

Again, we should not set this by default. But on request by the adim
from inside the YaST install/ printer setup dialog.

Do you mean a YaST printer setup dialog to set up what I described
at "Allow printer admin tasks for a normal user" in
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:CUPS_in_a_Nutshell

A well structured and longish document! And the second last item even
provides the solution to the actual issue. Good enough! The remaining
parts inside YaST - which is a tool mainly driven by the community IIRC?
- the community will fix. No, no, no the features.openSUSE.org web app
will handle this.

As I'm such a positive and productive and solution focused person I've
created https://features.openSUSE.org/313287 Mainly to see how this
request will get bit rotten in the next five years. :)

I don't expect someone from the community will touch YaST, in particular
the printing sub module. The latter I've tried to use again and again
with each new version and the user interface is this borked. Therefore
I expect even for the biggest sadomasochism openSUSE fans this hardcore
combination of YaST and printing is to much.¹

Thanks,

Lars

¹ this sentence is a trial of a joke again.
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Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ]
Samba Team
SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
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