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Re: [opensuse] fsh and distros
  • From: Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:17:25 +0100
  • Message-id: <jcmvf5$h2a$1@saturn.local.net>
Anders Johansson wrote:

On Sunday 18 December 2011 22:38:54 Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
That is what "journald" is all about, coming soon to openSUSE,
however you loose the ability to "grep" that particular logs
provided by journald because they are in binary format,

That's really smart. Provide log info no one can grep. What program
does one use to search the info.

To me that's not the major problem - any database will have tools to
extract data from it.

The problem comes when things go wrong, when a system crash partially
corrupts data for example. The more complex you make your storage, the
less likely you are of ever being able to extract anything from it.
Modern file systems are good examples of that: terribly nice when they
work, but if they fail you can more or less forget about being able to
"undelete" anything.

Logs are nice to have, in the aftermath of a crash

Occasionally they are also the only useful interface (log-scraping).
Kludgy, but it works.



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Per Jessen, Zürich (0.7°C)

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