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Re: [opensuse] Question about Free Software policies within the openSUSE Project
  • From: Kostas Boukouvalas <boukouvalas@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 00:47:09 +0200
  • Message-id: <4D13D16D.2000000@xxxxxxxxx>
Στις 24/12/2010 12:19 πμ, ο/η Michael S. Dunsaavage έγραψε:
On 12/23/2010 4:50 PM, Kostas Boukouvalas wrote:
If a user wants a free as in free beer GNU/Linux distribution that's easy to use and runs all the hardware she can have SLED as well. So, I think that openSUSE project is struggling to create something that already exists.
I must be failing to see what you're point. SLED is tailored to desktop users. SLES is tailored to servers.

Yes, I must admit that I didn't make proper distinction. I meant SLED/S both in my case each referring to its audience.

[openSUSE seems to be the best of both worlds and more] on the bleed edge.

Are you implying something about SLED/S developers? :P

What exactly is openSUSE struggling to create? To me it seems to be a stable, but somewhat experimental, release developed by a community of rather intelligent, and willing to help, people.

That's good and ethical target.

I see nothing useful of making openSUSE a true free OSS distro. In fact it would hinder it's adoption. I said before that the closed source binaries are a necessary evil. If we didn't compromise and have them, I guarantee Linux adoption would not be anywhere close to what it is. You would never get anyone to even try it if they can't play media files or get hardware to work properly. It would great if big name companies would develop for Linux and open their drivers, but it won't happen any time soon. And without this compromise of allowing closed source binaries into Linux, and I'm not meaning the kernel, then Linux would never have gotten it's 5% to 10% (depending what source you believe) adoption to the desktop.

That's true, indeed. Except the multimedia part because Dynebolic and Musix help a lot to fill the gap on this.

The FSF also needs to re-evaluate it's campaigns. They're starting to sounds more like zealots. If you're going to say don't use this and don't use that, then they need to suggest alternatives. It all boils down to the point of Open Source. It's choice. If you're opposed to using closed source binaries or software, so be it. Don't load those repos, don't install those pieces of software. But don't force that down my throat either. You can't say it's about choice and then take away one of the choices.

My opinion is only that if just one of the gigantic distributions like Redhat-Fedora SLED/S-openSUSE and Debian-Ubuntu would decide one day to create a 100% free software edition of itself, that would help a lot to promote Free Software and have a very strong player, that gnewSense, Ututo and others are not and would take many years to catch.
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