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Re: [opensuse] Moving to IPv6
  • From: "Brian K. White" <brian@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:23:25 -0400
  • Message-id: <4C8A4D6D.1020705@xxxxxxxxx>
On 9/10/2010 10:52 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Brian K. White<brian@xxxxxxxxx> [09-10-10 10:32]:

Just because you're used to something, and just because a lot of
other people have been forced to bend over backwards to deal with
this thing you're used to and hide it's problems from you by all
manner of other hacks and kludges that turn simple needs into complex
problems with no actually robust solutions let alone efficient ones,
doesn't make it not utter garbage.

Humm, a good argument re: KDE3<--> KDE4

hehe touche :)

But note that the kde3 users have in fact taken over responsibility for supporting themselves. Nor do I think their use of kde3 interferes with others' use of kde4 or anything else. Also, kde4's user-visible problems were voluntary design changes that had little to do with the claimed need to scrap and re-write all the underlying code. If maintaining and improving the kde3 code was so terrible, that's fine, but that does not mean they had to remove so many features and/or so greatly change the way it works for the user. They could have just refactored everything without changing the outward functionality. But gee that's boring for a developer. Well you get what you pay for I guess but I think the users that have a complaint, have a valid complaint, even if many other users have no complaint. The freeness works both for and against them in this case. The developers are free to disregard the users complaints, and the users are free to disregard developments they don't like. And some have done just that by putting kde3 on life support by themselves for themselves. It's not really a reason for contention as I see it.

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