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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 is turning into a nightmare - ps
  • From: Kai Ponte <kai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:24:35 -0800
  • Message-id: <200702120924.35368.kai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Monday 12 February 2007 06:36, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> Bruce Marshall wrote:
> > On Sunday 11 February 2007 19:21, Charles R. Buchanan wrote:
> >>> Linux is: Freedom, of choice, from gates & windows, from
> >>> illegal monopolies.
> >>
> >> So would that mean that users of Windows/Macs, etc... are "free" to
> >> choose what they want to run as well? Or are they mind numbed robots?
> >
> > Sure they can pick what they want.
> >
> > 1) Pull out wallet
> > 2) Pay the price
> > 3) Put up with the problems
> > 4) Reboot, reboot, reboot ad nauseum
> Hi,
> in all fairness, this does not hold truth anymore.
> And I _really_ like Linux very much:
> 1) You need to pay for windows, but otherwise, most things that you want
> from windows can be done with free (as in pay) tools. So you can leave
> your wallet, where it is.
> Ex. I run Windows successfully n one of my machines and did not pay a
> dime, except for the basic OS and the virus scanner and at the same time
> I did not pirate any software. Admittedly, any time I do a presentation
> with this laptop, customers are wondering that they need to pay for to
> achieve the things I have freely on my machine.

There are many OSS or at least free Windows-based apps, that it true. However,
you usually need to purchase or pirate most apps to get what you want done.

> 2) If you are working with OSS on windows, you just need to pay for the
> OS (and possibly the virusscanner, if clamwin i.e. clamAV for windows is
> not what you want).

I use AGV or Avast! on my Wintendo boxes.

> 3) Well, this is applicable for Linux, as well, I guess. ;-)

Yes, as I always say: "Linux - it sucks less than Windows."

> 4) this stoneold "reboot" legend seemingly never goes away. However it
> is mostly cited by people who did not use windows since w9x/NT4 times.
> Ex. I never had a single crash on windows since w2k and I cannot recall
> the last reboot I had to do because of an installtion.

Don't install much then, do you?

I just intalled an app on Wintendo the other day (Crystal Reports XI) and it
asked me to reboot not once but twice. This is on a WinXP box with Service
Pack 2 and .net runtime 2.0.

As for the BSOD, I get one on a regular basis on any one of my machines.
Typically, I have between six and ten applicaitons open on my workstations
(Linux or Wintendo) and find that Windows seems to not be able to handle the
memory leaks.

Keep in mind that WinXP - by default - hides the BSOD from you, unless you
change a setting to show the blue screen.

> At the same time this means that the "reality outside of Linux" is not
> as hostile as it used to be. Maybe this is the reason why 95% of all PCs
> continue to be driven by redmond systems.


Maybe it is the fact that Redmond employs some very shady tactics form lies,
inusults, bribery and extortion to ensure PC manufactures such as Dell, HP
and so on don't ship workstations pre-installed with anything but Wintendo.


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