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Re: [opensuse] Recommended Website Tools
  • From: Kenneth Schneider <suse-list3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:08:40 -0500
  • Message-id: <1169129320.20121.14.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 12:55 +0100, Clayton wrote:
> > I'm afraid I would strongly recommend *not* using Nvu. It produces awful
> > markup. It tends to use spans for everything, but doesn't delete them
> > correctly if you change the format (eg from bold to italic). You then end up
> > with nested spans which produce unexpected visual results, and to fix this
> > you have to go into the markup anyway.
> >
> > I suggested Nvu to my son for a school project, but he got so frustrated with
> > "why does this heading look different from that one, when I've told them both
> > to be H1?" that I told him I would go through the markup and tidy it up for
> > him. It took 3 hours to tidy up 4 or 5 pages, the markup was so awful. So
> > never again! YMMV, of course.
> This is exactly my experience. I used NVU once in the past year... I
> actually persisted with it for a while too. The nested span thing was
> a nightmare. Everything is fine-ish if you create the content, and
> then do the markup just once, but if you change your mind on anything,
> then the nesting gets out of control, and do it a few times and you
> webpage starts to do funny things.
> I ended up dropping back to a plain text editor to clean things up
> (didn't have access to Linux for this work).
> On Linux.. I almost always use Quanta+. The ability to chose raw
> code, or wysiwyg views is really nice.. and it (for me anyway)
> seamlessly switches back and forth as I need it to. My alternative to
> Quanta is Bluefish.

OpenOffice produces some fairly clean code.

Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

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