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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse
  • From: Jay Smith <susehelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 10:49:41 -0800
  • Message-id: <20061224185431.3F6FE218C2@xxxxxxxxxxx>

Hey, so I just joined into this convo and you know what, I am all for OpenSUSE. I
am not sure what's up with Novell and Microsoft and how that will effect us, but
I feel as if it'll help. Let's face it, there are a lot of things that don't work
well with Linux especially in a corporate setting. I want to see Linux and
Windows be able to work (of course, I'll use Linux). I am not an MS fan but I
don't like the fact that my OpenOffice can't open the MS .docx yet. I also hate
having to get third party software to make Linux and Windows servers and
management work.

As for your music, it's the same problem with Ubuntu. In Dapper and Edgy, you
have to download extra xine codecs off of their multiverse repository. You can't
just get mp3 support out of the box. I think there is something larger than
Microsoft and Novell going on with these formats and patents. I don't think it's
rational to get mad at Novell over our misfortunes. It's just a Linux thing, not
a Novell thing.

We all need to work together if we want to see Linux blow up onto the mainstream
map. Once that happens, we'll see more Linux drivers and apps.

On Sat Dec 23 19:26 , Darryl Gregorash sent:

>On 2006-12-23 19:14, John wrote:
>> I'll tell you what this patent protection did for me.
>First off, you should be aware that a great deal of protected stuff has
>not been in SuSELinux, for quite some time. Your Mplayer was uninstalled
>because of legal reasons, and Novell/SuSE cannot do much about that, if
>they want to protect their asses and yours from some rather expensive
>The codec patents involved in Mplayer for the most part do not belong to
>Microsoft. The various patented formats, such as mp3, are owned by
>someone else. Therefore, nothing in the Novell/MS agreement can allow
>those codecs to be put into the distribution.
>> I made the mistake of upgrading to openSUSE 10.2 and now I'm regretting
>> it big time. Mplayer was uninstalled by the upgrade, and none of my
>So put in a link to a Packman mirror, and put it back.
>> Is Linux desktop ready for prime time? I wish, but unfortunately, that's
>> not the present situation.
>Well, you go talk to the boys that own the mp3 patents and tell them
>they should just give Novell the rights to distribute the codecs,
>without fee. I am sure they will listen.
>The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s²
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