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Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE
  • From: Pascal Bleser <pascal.bleser@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:06:50 +0200
  • Message-id: <44CB4F5A.80809@xxxxxxxxx>
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jdd wrote:
> Andreas Hanke a écrit :
>
>> http://www.kroah.com/log/images/ols_2006_keynote_15.jpg
>>
>> This is not just a statement, it's the official position of Novell, Inc.
>> There is now openSUSE and the community can influence some things up to
>> a certain degree, but decisions like this one are (and should be, IMHO)
>> outside the scope of what the community can influence because the impact
>> is just too severe that the community can make an adequate decision.
>
> Novell could be aware that any non accepted decision could split the
> community and drop the work Novell already do.
> But I don't think this is the case here, _this_ decision looks very
> honest and respectfull of the hole Linux community.

Well.. sure, but... I think the main reason for that decision is
probably the fact that binary-only kernel drivers are *illegal* as they
break the GPL. Novell doesn't want to get into lawsuits against the FSF
(or whatever kernel developer).
I've seen somewhere (I think it was even on this list) that 2
distributions already got some nice mail (was it from the FSF ?) about
that and could be sent to court.

> _Any_ application (including the Kernel) is in fact owned by his
> developpers. Anybody can fork and make a new Kernel branch (can they?)

Totally not, unless you are referring to the GPL *only*.

I work as a system architect for a large business and the code I write
is not my property, it's owned by the company I work for.

Even with some open source licenses (Sun's CDDL for example), you have
to give up your ownership of the code and give it to the project.

Actually, I'm not even 100% sure that the GPL explicitly states that the
ownership remains with the author. I could be wrong though ;)

> but having the ressources to do so seems unlikely, if ever anybody had
> the will to do so.

Indeed. The Linux kernel project is rather unique in its kind, given the
large number of expert developers who are involved.
There aren't many OSS projects of that size, except maybe OpenOffice.org
or Mozilla (though I don't have numbers, just guessing).

> I also think this decision have been very difficult to do for the kernel
> guys and so must be accepted, as difficult as it can be.

It hasn't been difficult. Some kernel devs have been very vocal and
radical about it.. dare I say "religious", to say the least.

They're in their right, I mean, they are doing all the hard work
(although, don't forget "some" of them are actually paid for doing
that), they own the code they contribute, so it's their decision.
I just find most of them lack soft skills and communication is certainly
not their strength. It could have been better prepared as well.

cheers
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