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Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE
  • From: Kenneth Schneider <suse-list2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:51:53 -0400
  • Message-id: <1153396313.6612.27.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 11:11 +0200, Clayton wrote:
> > ¿Why Ubuntu is more popular tha SUSE despite thier young life?
> >
> > Maybe the response of that question can help the grow and improving of our
> > community.
>
> One HUGE factor with EVERYONE I know that uses Ubuntu or Kubuntu is...
> _package_management_. Ubuntu uses apt with the Synaptic front end.
> It's simple and easy to use. Several potential new users I've coached
> in Linux have tried out a few distributions including SUSE, and
> settled on Ubuntu (or Kubuntu), and when I ask why... they say that
> SUSE was great, easy to install and use right up until they tried to
> use the package management tools.
>
> YaST was/is a brilliant installer, but once you want to manage 3rd
> party apps... SUSE falls to pieces for a new user. Ubuntu/Kubuntu
> comes with Synaptic preconfigured and ready to go. A new user simply
> has to start it up, click a few things as explained in easy to read
> instructions and they are up and running with literally thousands of
> applications avaiilable to be installed. They can even easily upgrade
> to the next major release with Synaptic.
>
> Compare that to SUSE... you get YaST with is OK for managing apps on
> the DVD/CDs. If you want to add in 3rd party applications, the
> instructions for how to do this are spotty and almost impossible to
> follow (if you've never done it before). You can try out SMART, but
> again... horrible documentation, and loads of places where things go
> completely wrong (for an inexperienced user).
>

Is there any reason that YaST package management couldn't have a dynamic
selection list of third party repos? Kind of how YOU worked prior to
10.1, you were presented with a pulldown list of mirrors for the
updates. With a dynamic selection list one could pick and chose what
third party repos to include in the PM and the list could be one that
only includes repos that were registered with openSUSE. This would
certainly make it much easier to add third party repos and people new to
openSUSE would more inclined to stay here.

This is just an idea on how to better server the community as far as
third party repos are concerned.

--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998


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