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Re: [SLE] SLES8
  • From: Henne Vogelsang <hvogel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:40:05 +0100
  • Message-id: <20021122164005.GA16806@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi,

On Friday, November 22, 2002 at 15:14:29, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:
> Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> >On Friday, November 22, 2002 at 07:34:21, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:
> >>>On Thursday, November 21, 2002 at 21:41:06, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>What is license for SLES8? Per server (as for SCO UL-based server) or
> >>>>something else?
> >>>
> >>>The only thing that is "licensed" is the maintenance. Its limited to one
> >>>machine. Everything else is licensed individualy (based on the package).
> >>>GPL / LPGL / BSD / YaST / blah blubb. The distribution work is under the
> >>>same YaST / SuSE License as every product.
>
> >>Maintenance mean new version of packadges, each has it's own license....
> >
> >Nope not only. Maintanance means also product information, knowledge
> >base, installation support, installation kits and it is the base for
> >further support.
> >
>
> You are talking about installation support?

Not the "normal" installation Support you get for products. In SLES8 you
get installation support for the whole maintenance time.

> Then, what is available from PSDB (i.e. what one pay for):
>
> <quote>
> Search: search for a patch by keyword, e.g. 'httpd'
> o History: view the documentation sorted by date and download the
> patches related to your SuSE Linux product.
> o Versions/Products: display and download all the patches available for
> your your SuSE Linux product.
> o Categories: view/download the patches and fixes by category, e.g.
> 'security'
> </quote>
>
> This is only updates for packages, which as you wrote I can install
> on several servers. And this is maintenance, nothing more included!
> Well, Suse send e-mail about new updates :-)

There is a difference:

You buy a CD Set which has packages included. Depending on the license
of the package you can do what the license permits you to do with it.
For most packages this is GPL and GPL permits (forces? ;) you to install
the package on as many machines as you want.

You buy also a service with this CD Set called maintenance. This service
is limited to the modalities of your individual contract with SuSE.
Normally a one year contract including the maintenance for one machine.

Dont mix up these two things. That you are allowed to install the
packages of the CD Set on more than one machine does not force SuSE to
_deliver_ the service of maintenance to more than one machine.

As i said, no one will detain you of downloading the update packages
from the maintenance web to a local machine and update your other 200
machines from there, but if a update breaks one of these machines you do
not have a maintenance contract for or you want to have anything else
for one of these machines (like installation support, support, product
addons or something like this) you are on your own.

> > Ask enterprise-presales@xxxxxxxx for more details, a license, a example
> > contract whatever.
>
> :-)
> We bought SLES7 with one year maintenance, Now it is expired, so we want
> to buy or SLES8 or next year for SLES7.
> It is impossible to buy next year in Russia, I asked this presales
> several times with no success - they simply don't rely at all.
> But I want to be shure that I can legally install and use SLES8
> on several servers. Sorry, I even still do not know license for SLES7 ;-))

I cannot give you a official SuSE statement. I only can try to explain
how i think these "contracts/licenses" work.

Henne

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