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Re: [SLE] SuSE CTO and President Steps Down
  • From: Ron Cordell <roncordell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:04:17 -0400
  • Message-id: <200108290004.f7T04It09586@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
You touch on a very important point. Nobody wants to spend the time knowing
how the OS works in order to get their job done - they just want to start
working and be productive. Nowadays, it is *much* easier to be there on
Linux, so that is good, but it is nowhere near as mind-numbingly easy as it
is on Windows. Some will argue that is a good thing, however, most of the
planet doesn't want or care to know those details - they just want it to work.

It is extra effort on my part to be able to work on a Linux platform, even
for software development, but I do it because it is valuable in other ways.

On Tuesday 28 August 2001 05:10 pm, Daniel Woodard wrote:
> >And think of it this way, there is still NO product activation!
> I hope Activation has some sort of effect on somebody- read Corporate IS. I
> won't go near the thing, sticking with W2k forever it looks like (on the
> Windows side, I also use MacOS as well- each machine it's task).
> One thing though, the fatal flaw is Linux on workstations. I've been
> dorking around with linux for years now, and I still think it's quite hard
> to do a lot configuration stuff. I could not get my partner to suffer the
> same learning curve, so I'm the lone Linux guy here.
> My primary job is video/graphics/multimedia production and I feel like,
> even by using Linux on our servers, I'm an exception to the rule. Other
> people in my position would never go through what I went through to get
> even "sort of" proficient at Linux.
> If you live and breath sys admin, then of course it's easy. If it's the 7th
> of 10 (time consuming) hats you wear, Linux can be very hard to use. I
> still "break" things and then have a really hard time getting it to work
> again. Lib this, permission that, missing this, on and on. Yeah, I love the
> power, but for me it's an extended hobby/passion of love thing. Like I
> said, others in my shoes would never go through the learning curve and
> would opt for a Mac server, or a Windows server.
> Example: I bought Cold Fusion 5 and Generator DE for Linux. PHP is hard for
> me, and while I continue to dick around with it, I'm more productive in CF.
> Well, CF is very very very easy to install on SuSE. I never did get
> Generator to install on the same server. I spent days, I recompiled Apache,
> messed with java implementaion (way over my head) and ended up with no
> working Generator DE server, and I was worn out. Now Generator is on W2k
> sitting next to my SuSE/Cold Fusion server. The windows install was a
> breeze.
> OK, I was 1 for 2 there- CF on Linux, Generator on W2k.
> Yeah, they could write better installers or whatever, but still, the real
> world here.

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