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Re: [SLE] Shocked at SuSE 7.1 Upgrade Package
ROFL ** Par-dun mye speeling, oy aeint fwum anh eenklish speekink coontry ;->

On Monday 21 May 2001 07:10 pm, Tor Sigurdsson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You wrote
>
> > ** Reply to message from Anders Johansson <andjoh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > on Sun, 20 May 2001 17:02:32 +0200
> >
> > > I must say I find this a bit odd. I don't know about 6.4 -> 7.1, but I
> > > upgraded from 7.0 and it was the first upgrade I've ever performed with
> > > linux that went without a hitch. May I ask which services you were
> > > running that failed after the upgrade?
> >
> > Ooooooh! I have not updated yet. I know better from the comments on
> > this list over the past several months. What I was asking for was danger
> > signs, hints, precautions, etc.
> >
> > As you can see from the new comments on the list, I may just do a new
> > install. Many of my packages, including X and KDE 2.1.2 were compiled
> > from source with glibc 2.1.3, and 7.1 has glibc2.2 which means, I think,
> > re-configure time for a lot of stuff.
>
> You really SHOULD do a clean install.
>
> Although SuSE 6.4 is a great distro ( I still have one 6.4 machine running
> ) the differences between it and 7.1 are, to say the least, eons apart.
>
> Even tho you may have installed XF4, kernel 2.2 or 2.4 and probably other
> stuff as well, it doesn't guarantee you any closeness to an upgradeable
> system. My experience is that if you have gone any length into configuring
> or personalising your system, the upgrade PROBABLY doesn't work.
>
> - time is money.
>
> Also, I upgraded a 6.4 system to 7.0 and a lot of things broke. Also the
> install times were way out of the chart. The usual install ( yast1,
> manually select exactly what goes in and what doesn't ) takes me about 3
> hours. That's including rudimentary security checks, making
> cloneconfig/bzImage ( needed for NVidia drivers on smp ) and patching
> XFree/KDE. The upgrade itself took almost 10 hours, and that left me with a
> system needing my attention off and on for a couple of weeks.
>
> - I only do clean installs.
>
> Having learnt from experience, I spend one hour seeking stray data on the
> machine being upgraded, back it up, wipe the box clean and start from
> scratch with a checklist of what _SHOULD_ be installed ( most think that
> the more the merrier :-)
>
> Have a nice install :-)
>
> -tosi
>
> ** Par-dun mye speeling, oy aeint fwum anh eenklish speekink coontry ;->
>
> > Ed Harrison broadcasting on
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> > by SuSE(6.4), Kernel 2.4.4, X 4.0.3
> > or Warp 4, FP12
> > or Windows98 (running in vmware 2.0.4 for fun)
> > PolarBarMailer 1.1.19a with SUN JDK 1.3

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