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Writing Greek in KDE.2.xx [Was]: Wish list for SuSE 7.2 (what I see in Mandrake 8.0)
  • From: Rouvas Stathis <rouvas@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 23:05:16 +0300
  • Message-id: <3AF8517C.E8EA46A7@xxxxxxxxx>
First of all, thank you all for your prompt reply.

To Togan Muftuoglu: Thanks a lot, but your suggestion didn't help me.

To SuSE support (Lenz Grimmer and to the rest): Thank you. I was very
surprised when I heared from you. I didn't expected it. I am pleased
even if it didn't solve my problem:-)

Let me now elaborate on my problem.
1) I can write Greek as well as see Greek in *all* windowmanagers.
2) My problem is : "How do I switch from English keyboard to a Greek

Personally I like fvwm better and that's the windowmanager I use.
But I thought I might give KDE.2.xx a try.
All went well, and I am very impressed by the quality of work that has
been done, both from the KDE team as well as from the SuSE team (very
good intergration).
Then, I thought that I might as well use the language changer (you know,
that little thing that changes flags every time you press it, kxkb is
called as I later found out).
Well, it changed flags all right, but that's about all it did.
It didn't change my keyboard mapping, so I still couldn't type Greek.
Problem is solved by using kikbd (from KDE.1.xx), but it is not an
ellegant solution since kikbd does not get captured by kpanel and it is
left as a "stray" window floating in my desktop which spoils the whole
KDE.2.xx "experience".
BTW, fvwm nicely captures kikbd into FvwmButtons.

SuSE support, please read on...

Lenz Grimmer wrote:
> Here some comments from our developers about Greek support:
> [SNIP]
> It looks like the greek fonts in the xf86 package were dropped with the
> update to xf86 4.0 in SuSE 7.0. We should include them in the future again
> either within an extra package or create them (misc/75dpi/100dpi bdf
> fonts) during the build of xf86. BTW, I see iso8859-7 misc fonts in SuSE
> 7.x. Isn't iso8859-7 the same as Latin7, which is required for Greek
> users?
> [SNIP]

Yes, iso8859-7 is the same as Latin7.
Yes, misc-*-iso8859-7 fonts are included. but none of the other fonts
found in xfntgrk-3.3.6-27 and in xfntgr-3.3.6-27 are. That includes
fonts such as helvetica, arial, times etc.
BTW, I installed the above mentions rpms from SuSE.6.4 to a SuSE.7.1
system and everything works fine, so I can't say if it's the X server or

> [SNIP]
> I checked whether we have greek fonts recently - I found that we currently
> The fonts from xf86.rpm are already enough for some basic stuff.
> [SNIP]
> So I assume, we are all covered here.

Well, for some basic stuff you are indeed covered.
But I can't see why I should be so limited in font choices. Actually I
don't have a choice, there is only one font available with the 7.1.Pro I
For xterm-based tasks, misc is fine. For almost everything else in

Thank you for your time,

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