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RE: [SLE] FW: [SLE] [OT] Legal Issues Type Question
  • From: "crrey" <crrey@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:15:26 -0500
  • Message-id: <NEBBJLBFILJCDGDAKFKGGEKKCDAA.crrey@xxxxxxxx>
I thought the vendors were supposed to accomidate the clientele. If they
want a computer without an os then they should get one. But then again were
talkin M$ here. The vendors want to supply the customer with the leading
market share product, unfortunately that's Windblows. The only way they can
get a license to do so is on M$' term - and we know what those are. The part
that bugs me is that they are willing to sacrifice sales to those that don't
want an OS pre-installed. That's just not smart.

When will they realize that they have the power to sell what the customer
wants? M$ has probably imtimidated them so much that they are worried that
if M$ finds out that they are selling comps without an os that they will get
their license jerked - the wonderfully vague license agreement! You know the
one that M$ set up so that when asked about they can twist anyway that suits
them. The license agreement that baffles even the most savvy lawyers. The
license that scares the S#$% out of the vendors 'cause they can't figure it
out either.

-----Original Message-----
From: Victor R. Cardona [mailto:vcardona@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2302
To: SuSE Linux List
Subject: Re: [SLE] FW: [SLE] [OT] Legal Issues Type Question

On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:13:40PM -0700, jennifer moter wrote:
> These people's business includes selling software licenses - check the
> page.
> Just because you don't agree with someone's business doesn't mean you
> have the right to 'stir up trouble'.
> Find a dealer you like.

I don't think anyone was trying to stir up trouble. Many people object
to the "every computer must sell with an OS" policy. They object because
it stems from exclusive licensing deals which Microsoft made with PC
manufacturers. I agree with your recommendation, but you have to realize
that it does suck when all or most of your local vendors insist on
charging you $70 - $100 for an OS you don't wish to use.

> >From: Samy Elashmawy [mailto:samelash@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >
> >Take your money elswhere.
> >
> > At 12:44 PM 5/2/2001 +0100, Eddie Howson wrote:
> >>There is a company, Simply Computers ( who will
> not
> >>sell a computer without an operating system. However, they do not offer
> any
> >>Linux distos. The only solution they offer is to buy MsDOS even if you
> are
> >>never going to use it. Is there anything that can be done or is there
> >>anyway
> >>that we can put pressure on the them to rethink their policy?
> >>
> >>Just wondered.
> >>
> >>Eddie
> >>


Victor R. Cardona

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