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[opensuse-wiki] small favor please,
by James Tremblay aka SLEducator 28 Dec '08

28 Dec '08

Hi, I am not sure how to rename a page, could someone rename http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Applications/Desktop/Ages_4-10 to http://en.opensuse.org/Education/Applications/Desktop/Ages_4-11 sorry, Thanks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] New o.o-frontpage
by Robert Lihm 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

Hey! During Hackweek 3 Andreas Demmer and I made a new frontpage for opensuse.org, which will replace the 3-Box-Page we currently have on http://www.opensuse.org . The goals of the new page are: * pickup the visitor at the front-door * offer more information about the openSUSE-Project on a centralised page (more; not to much, many, etc., just a overview!) * stay conform with the openSUSE.org screen-design * make it easy for newcomers to dig into the openSUSE-Univers. About the page-design: The content is always placed in two columns (1/3 to 2/3) and the page is divided into two halves. In the top is the eye-candy logo with a short description (we are still looking for a better/shorter text) of the openSUSE project and the good old three main sections: software, wiki, build service. Links to all other o.o-pages are offert at the bottom of the page as hotwords, so they can be easily found with the filter in your browser or by scrolling ;-) The search bar above the the categories is not fully implemented jet. We plan a selection box (dropdown) in front of the input-field where you can select the section which should be searched (e.g. like Firefox search in the top/right corner). The placement of the search box is carefully chosen. It has a optical connection to the three sections but there is enough white-space between the search and the section-chunk to display that they are not siblings. It's in the upper-right where the most people look for a search (it's in these area on all o.o-pages). The lower part of the page contains, in the bigger column, informations like upcoming events, etc. ... what ever is hot :-) The smaler column contains the last 5 headlines from news.o.o (updates every hour), help informations and a link to shop.o.o. We made a small admin interface to change the content without the code- hacking and deploying dance. A localisation is implemented, too. But not deployed now. You can check out the draft at http://www.suse.de/~rlihm/index.shtml. We are looking forward to hear your opinions and suggestions. Best, Robert --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm(a)suse.de ____________________________________________________________ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ____________________________________________________________ SUSE - a Novell business --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Re: [opensuse-marketing] New o.o-frontpage
by Robert Lihm 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

On 28.08.2008, at 16:12, Tehmasp Chaudhri wrote: > Hi, > > I'll just be frank. IMHO it's rather dull looking in its current > state. > I would stick w/ the current frontpage if I had to vote. > > I'm also getting an 'Error 404' right now on your example site, BTW. > OK, the 404 is 'cause I uploaded a php file and missed that the server has no PHP. We are organizing an other webserver right now. Sorry, that's not the way an announcement should run ;-) As workaround I deployed a redirect which brings you to my privat server where the page run fine. > I do like the international drop down box - but don't get why the > current > frontpage would need a search bar. I like going to opensuse.org and > choosing > between the 3 options (get, discover, build) - makes it real easy. > Agree about the 3 boxes. IMHO the search box is handy because you can (in future) just go to this page and e.g. search directly at software.o.o for a software-package. It makes ways shorter. And I think, it's a kind of back-up for visitors who feel lost. It strongly depends on user-behavior. > In the end I'm nobody on this list :) > As every body! That's one of the cool things here :-) Cheers, Robert > Thanks, > Tehmasp > > > On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 13:57 +0200, Robert Lihm wrote: >> Hey! >> >> During Hackweek 3 Andreas Demmer and I made a new frontpage for >> opensuse.org, which will replace the 3-Box-Page we currently have >> on http://www.opensuse.org >> . >> >> The goals of the new page are: >> >> * pickup the visitor at the front-door >> * offer more information about the openSUSE-Project on a centralised >> page (more; not to much, many, etc., just a overview!) >> * stay conform with the openSUSE.org screen-design >> * make it easy for newcomers to dig into the openSUSE-Univers. >> >> About the page-design: >> >> The content is always placed in two columns (1/3 to 2/3) and the page >> is divided into two halves. >> In the top is the eye-candy logo with a short description (we are >> still looking for a better/shorter text) of the openSUSE project and >> the good old three main sections: software, wiki, build service. >> Links to all other o.o-pages are offert at the bottom of the page as >> hotwords, so they can be easily found with the filter in your browser >> or by scrolling ;-) >> The search bar above the the categories is not fully implemented jet. >> We plan a selection box (dropdown) in front of the input-field where >> you can select the section which should be searched (e.g. like >> Firefox >> search in the top/right corner). >> The placement of the search box is carefully chosen. It has a optical >> connection to the three sections but there is enough white-space >> between the search and the section-chunk to display that they are not >> siblings. It's in the upper-right where the most people look for a >> search (it's in these area on all o.o-pages). >> >> The lower part of the page contains, in the bigger column, >> informations like upcoming events, etc. ... what ever is hot :-) >> The smaler column contains the last 5 headlines from news.o.o >> (updates >> every hour), help informations and a link to shop.o.o. >> We made a small admin interface to change the content without the >> code- >> hacking and deploying dance. >> >> A localisation is implemented, too. But not deployed now. >> >> You can check out the draft at http://www.suse.de/~rlihm/index.shtml. >> >> We are looking forward to hear your opinions and suggestions. >> >> Best, >> Robert >> >> --- >> >> Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - Build Service Team >> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg >> Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm(a)suse.de >> ____________________________________________________________ >> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) >> ____________________________________________________________ >> SUSE - a Novell business >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org > For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+help(a)opensuse.org > --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm(a)suse.de ____________________________________________________________ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ____________________________________________________________ SUSE - a Novell business --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Are there any naming conventions?
by Javier Llorente 20 Aug '08

20 Aug '08

Hi Marko, I have read somewhere on the wiki, that in case of doubt, you should follow Wikipedia's style. I think that that's the best idea. Are we going to hold an election soon? ;-) Regards, Javier ----- Original Message ---- From: Marko Jung <mjung(a)suse.de> To: opensuse-wiki(a)opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:21:53 PM Subject: [opensuse-wiki] Are there any naming conventions? Hi, I am wondering if we have a naming convention for wiki pages. Would it be better to have Board/Election (general info or redirect to actual year) Board/Election/2007 (year specific infos) Board/Election/2008 (year specific infos) or Board Election Board Election 2007 Board Election 2008 Another example would be: Events/FrOSCon, Events/FrOSCon/2007, Events/FrOSCon/2008, ... or FrOSCon, FrOSCon 2007, FrOSCon 2008, ... Which Version do we prefer? Using Subpages (1st Variant) or several pages with the year number as prefix (with a whitespace)? I am asking because Wikipedia deprecated the subpages and just uses it for dividing large documents. They now use categories for grouping related information. Regards, Marko --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Are there any naming conventions?
by Javier Llorente 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

I thought it applied to everything including page names. Anyways, I agree with Carlos... Something like Board/Election/2008 would be easier to remember. Regards, Javier ----- Original Message ---- From: Marko Jung <mjung(a)suse.de> To: Javier Llorente <javier.llorente(a)yahoo.com> Cc: opensuse-wiki(a)opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:50:40 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse-wiki] Are there any naming conventions? Hi. Javier Llorente schrieb: > I have read somewhere on the wiki, that in case of doubt, you should > follow Wikipedia's style. I think that that's the best idea. The Style Guide [1] says nothing on page names. Wikipedia has many rules for naming pages [2] and when to use subpages [3]. I would like to cite a short excerpt from that article: "Subpages were originally used on Wikipedia to differentiate between subjects to create topical hierarchies of articles, but this proved unworkable because articles tend to belong in more than one hierarchy. The present system of disambiguation was adopted instead, and the Wikipedia:Do not use subpages policy had to be rigorously enforced, as well as retroactively applied. As of mid-2004, the category system supports hierarchical organization while still allowing an article to belong to multiple categories." I would also propose this for the openSUSE wiki. > Are we going to hold an election soon? ;-) Yes, please see [4]. [1] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_Style_Guide [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Subpage [4] http://en.opensuse.org/Board_Election Cheers, Marko > ----- Original Message ---- From: Marko Jung <mjung(a)suse.de> To: > opensuse-wiki(a)opensuse.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:21:53 PM > Subject: [opensuse-wiki] Are there any naming conventions? > > Hi, > > I am wondering if we have a naming convention for wiki pages. > > Would it be better to have Board/Election (general info or > redirect to actual year) Board/Election/2007 (year specific infos) > Board/Election/2008 (year specific infos) or Board Election Board > Election 2007 Board Election 2008 > > Another example would be: Events/FrOSCon, Events/FrOSCon/2007, > Events/FrOSCon/2008, ... or FrOSCon, FrOSCon 2007, FrOSCon 2008, ... > > Which Version do we prefer? Using Subpages (1st Variant) or several > pages with the year number as prefix (with a whitespace)? I am asking > because Wikipedia deprecated the subpages and just uses it for > dividing large documents. They now use categories for grouping > related information. > > Regards, Marko > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For > additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For > additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] Are there any naming conventions?
by Carlos Goncalves 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

Hi, Em Terça 19 Agosto 2008, o Marko Jung escreveu: > Which Version do we prefer? Using Subpages (1st Variant) or several > pages with the year number as prefix (with a whitespace)? I am asking > because Wikipedia deprecated the subpages and just uses it for dividing > large documents. They now use categories for grouping related information. Personally I prefer the first one (subpages). It's easier to people remember even if they do not remember clearly which subpage they want. Plus, people might get confused if it was eg. FrOSCon 2007, FrOSCon2007, FrOSCon_2007, FrOSCon-2007, or etc. I've been using this convention since ENOS 2007 (pt.o.o/Eventos/ENOS/2007, and pt.o.o/Eventos/ENOS (current year)). So far so good :-) -- Regards, Carlos Goncalves --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] Are there any naming conventions?
by Marko Jung 19 Aug '08

19 Aug '08

Hi, I am wondering if we have a naming convention for wiki pages. Would it be better to have Board/Election (general info or redirect to actual year) Board/Election/2007 (year specific infos) Board/Election/2008 (year specific infos) or Board Election Board Election 2007 Board Election 2008 Another example would be: Events/FrOSCon, Events/FrOSCon/2007, Events/FrOSCon/2008, ... or FrOSCon, FrOSCon 2007, FrOSCon 2008, ... Which Version do we prefer? Using Subpages (1st Variant) or several pages with the year number as prefix (with a whitespace)? I am asking because Wikipedia deprecated the subpages and just uses it for dividing large documents. They now use categories for grouping related information. Regards, Marko --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] small favor please,
by Javier Llorente 18 Aug '08

18 Aug '08

You are right. It was the first thing that came to my mind. However, if there are no links to that page, he could delete it and start over. Javier ----- Original Message ---- From: Rajko M. <rmatov101(a)charter.net> To: opensuse-wiki(a)opensuse.org Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:23:00 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse-wiki] small favor please, On Wednesday 13 August 2008 05:23:20 pm Javier Llorente wrote: > Hi, > I don't know if it is the best solution, but you could try copying and > pasting the content into the new one. Once you are done, delete the old > one. Hi Javier, the easiest way to rename is using Move. It will create redirect from old page to new. That way if somebody already linked to the old name it will be not dead link. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-wiki] small favor please,
by Javier Llorente 17 Aug '08

17 Aug '08

Well, Education/Applications/Desktop/Ages 4-10 redirects you to Education/Applications/Desktop/Ages 4-11 None of these pages have content, except for the #redirect. But that's a complete different story. Javier ----- Original Message ---- From: Rajko M. <rmatov101(a)charter.net> To: opensuse-wiki(a)opensuse.org Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:19:19 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse-wiki] small favor please, On Saturday 16 August 2008 09:43:57 pm James Tremblay aka SLEducator wrote: > Thank you all. > With all of your suggestions , the most I could effect was to cut from > one and paste to the other, leaving the original blank. > Not sure if this will remove the page but...... > James No, it would not. After copy and paste it can be easily recreated from page history. The other option 'move' can be reverted. We use template {{delete}} to mark pages that have to be deleted, but Lars has admin rights and can remove page completely. -- Regards, Rajko http://en.opensuse.org/Portal needs helpful hands. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-wiki] specific google search
by jdd 15 Aug '08

15 Aug '08

I just notice freebsd have a specific google entry (even with the little devil as logo), do we have the same for opensuse? http://www.google.com/bsd thank jdds -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-wiki+help(a)opensuse.org

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