June 2016 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-project] openSUSE Members retirement
by Michal Hrusecky 27 May '17

27 May '17

Hi everybody, as you all know, we have the openSUSE Members, a group of contributors through their sustained and substantial contributors that are eligible to participate in elections, have @opensuse.org mail and other perks. We have now about 600 of them, but as you can see[1] in last openSUSE Board elections only 150 of them voted. This could mean two things - either most of the members are not interested in elections or plenty of them are simply no longer around. I guess the truth is somewhere in middle. This is something we need to know when we take project wide decisions in order to correctly assess the communities interest in the topic. This is a recurring topic that has been discussed at the openSUSE Board Face to Face meeting last year, oSC 15, and on this list several times over the last few years. Taking these into consideration, we (in the board) think it would be a good idea to implement something to help with ensuring our Membership list accurately reflects our current Membership. I have put together a tool which attempts to detect an openSUSE Members activity on mailing lists, OBS, bugzilla, maybe more. This tool will remember when we last saw openSUSE Member on any of those channels and if they doesn't show for 6 months, we will send them an e-mail asking whether they still wants to be a member. A response to that email will automatically count as activity and preserve the Members status. If there is no response within 30 days of the notification, the Member will be 'retired' and be considered a 'Member emeritus'. If someone is retired incorrectly, or a 'Member emeritus' returns to the Project and wants a restoration of their voting privilege, they will be unretired without question by the Membership Committee. There are few implementation details to be worked out, so we don't expect this to go live overnight but consider this a "statement of intent" and an explanation of how we expect things to work before we start testing the process. ==== To answer some of the obvious questions: Q: Shouldn't we retire inactive members anyway after measuring and evaluating their activity? A: No, that would be too hard, too subjective and it could bother people that we cannot measure automatically. Automatic measurement is just an indicator that those people are no longer interested, but they might be just working on project aspects we cannot measure. openSUSE Members are members until THEY no longer want to be. We believe this system preserves that principle. Q: Wouldn't it offend active contributors if they will be falsely accused of not being interested? A: I hope not. If period will be long enough (6 months) and if we monitor even mailing lists, people will usually show up somewhere. We intend to word the 'ping' email in a way that is not judgemental, but just makes it clear that we have failed to automatically find evidence of contribution so want to make sure they are still interested in remaining a Member. Q: Doesn't it change the meaning of the openSUSE Member? A: Not really. So far once you got a membership status, it was forever without question. Now it would be forever as long as you are interested. No big change, just a little difference. Q: What if mail with warning gets lost? A: If you lose your membership by accident by losing an e-mail, you can still contact membership committee and as a retired member you will be reinstated immediately without voting/verification that takes time. And you should fix your e-mail in connect.opensuse.org in that case ;-) Q: Will retired members retain their email & IRC cloak perks? A: No, the intention is that retired members will no longer be eligible for @opensuse.org email addresses and Freenode IRC cloaks. [1] https://connect.opensuse.org/pg/polls/read/pluskalm/49480/opensuse-board-el… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] oSC16 Feedback
by Uzair Shamim 30 Jun '16

30 Jun '16

Hi All, Just wanted to share my thoughts after getting time to watch many of the presentations uploaded. First of all, thank you for having the videos uploaded so quickly, it was great to be able to quickly watch some of the presentations within a day after they were done. Second, thank you for the good quality audio and video of the presentations and discussions. Many conferences do not have this and it makes it difficult to follow the presentations. It was also great to hear many of the discussions people had about the project in the project meeting. I had some other questions wrt some of the topics brought up but I will make separate threads for those. -- Regards, Uzair Shamim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE not listed at certbot.eff.org ?
by Per Jessen 21 Jun '16

21 Jun '16

certbot is able to deal with openSUSE (apparently not SLES) during installation, but I can't help noticing that there is no mention of openSUSE (nor SLES) on the front page. There are others missing too, but shouldn't we be listed there along with the rest? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (17.5°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Reminder: Key Signing Party
by Christian Bruckmayer 20 Jun '16

20 Jun '16

As a quick reminder: We will have a Key Signing Party (https://events.opensuse.org/conference/oSC16/program/proposal/826) at the openSUSE Conference. Note that the deadline for sending your key is tomorrow 2016-06-21 15:00 CEST! All attendees send their public keys to Johannes Segitz (jsegitz(a)suse.com): # gpg --armor --export --output $KEY_ID.gpg $KEY_ID Send $KEY_ID.gpg via email to jsegitz(a)suse.com Thanks -- Christian Bruckmayer SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] How The Xen Project Streamlined Code Review By Analyzing Mailing List Data
by PatrickD Garvey 19 Jun '16

19 Jun '16

I thought this might be relevant to the discussion about aging official membership in the openSUSE project: https://www.Linux.com/blog/how-xen-project-streamlined-code-review-analyzin… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Updating the 'Derivatives' page on website
by Karl Cheng 16 Jun '16

16 Jun '16

At the moment, it seems that a large portion of the projects listed on the openSUSE derivatives page (https://en.opensuse.org/Derivatives) have been abandoned or out of date, which couldn't possibly give a good impression of the distro to prospective users. What should be done about these pages? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] openSUSE documentation
by Nick Mantas 01 Jun '16

01 Jun '16

Greeting fellow Geekos! As you know lots of new stuff are coming in the future of the project! It has occcured to me during conversations with fellow linux users that though openSUSE is among the leading distros , help towards technical (or other) problems still needs improvement. Quite a few people are asking question on the facebook group, and most of them are answered thoroughly, but we are not archived or reachable from non-facebook users and the forum traffic is low. So I wonder is it possible to have an official stack exchange page where users can ask for help? What are the difficulties we might face? Imho it would be more efficient and new users will appreciate it more. Care to share your thoughts on what can be done? I'm willing to help if we reach an agreement inb4: I'm not saying to close the forum -- Nick Mantas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] oSC16 - Last Organizing Team Meeting
by ddemaio 01 Jun '16

01 Jun '16

Hi all, We will have our last organizing meeting for this year's openSUSE Conference on the opensuse-project channel on freenode IRC today at 1700 UTC. The topics we will discuss in today's meetings are: Keynote Changes Proposals Status Daily emails Equipment update Volunteers Make sure to register for the social events under “My Registration” on events.opensuse.org if you want to attend any of the city or cellar tours in Nuremberg. Presentation template - https://progress.opensuse.org/attachments/download/1348/openSUSE%202015%20T… v/r Doug

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