Mailinglist Archive: zypp-devel (66 mails)

[Jan Kupec <jkupec@xxxxxxx>]

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Peter Poeml wrote:
> Hi Jano,
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:41:26PM +0100, Jan Kupec wrote:
> > > this may be obvious, but I didn't find anything when I searched the
> > > zypper man page for "exclude" or "ignore".
> > >
> > > How do I exclude a certain package from a repo that I am subscribed to
> > > so that it doesn't update a package that I have on my system?
> > >
> > > I imported the following repo file into zypper, which works with yum:
> > >
> > > -# cat Application:Geo.repo
> > > [Application_Geo]
> > > name=Applications related to the earth (GIS, Mapping, geodesy, GPS) 
> > > (openSUSE_11.0)
> > > type=rpm-md
> > > baseurl=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Application:/Geo/openSUSE_11.0/
> > > gpgcheck=1
> > > gpgkey=http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Application:/Geo/openSUSE_11.0/repodata/repomd.xml.key
> > > enabled=1
> > > exclude=autoconf          <----------
> > >
> > >
> > > The same exclude line put into the .repo file in /etc/zypp/repos.d
> > > doesn't have any effect.
> > Libzypp does not support this AFAIK. To avoid
> > installing/upgrading/removing of some package, lock it:
> >
> > $ zypper addlock foo
>
> This sounds as if updates of the package are totally blocked then. Is
> that the case? I don't want to avoid installing/upgrading/removing of
> the package. It would be wrong to block regular updates to the package
> (which would concern me).
>
> > this will add the lock to /etc/zypp/locks, see also 'man locks'
>
> I also looked into that man page yesterday, because it is linked from
> the zypper man page, but I have to admit that I don't understand a word. 
> Too abstract for me. :-(
>
> On a related note, I miss a feature similar to "exclude" which comes
> in very handy. Practically the opposite of "exclude", and I use it
> rather often. It's called includepkgs in yum.conf speak (see
> http://linux.die.net/man/5/yum.conf) and its purpose is that it lets me
> ignore all but (a) certain package(s) from a repository.
> For instance, when I want to get (and update) some tool from
> network:utilities, but I don't want a pcap library that happens to be
> there (no thanks!).
>
> > > On a related note, I have also looked for something like --exclude on
> > > the commandline, but to no avail. I am aware of the way to give package
> > > names as arguments to zypper, with and without wildcards, and that works
> > > fine for me, but sometimes an exclude on the commandline is useful as
> > > well.
> > Hmm.. right, there's nothing like that available in zypper. Once you use
> > a wildcard, it will consider all matches. Yeah, i guess it might be
> > useful to be able to exlcude some of the matches. Could you please file
> > an enhancement request in bugzilla? (I'll probably close it as wontfix
> > :O) but don't worry, it'll be still alive in
> > http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper/Bugs_For_Adoption ... which reminds me i
> > should advertise the page a bit :O)
>
> Shouldn't we rather add FATE or openFATE requests for these features?

It should not be hard to do, so bugzilla would be more appropriate -
just so that i don't forget about it. It does not matter whether you
choose FATE or bugzilla after all - we'll put it to FATE anyway, if it's
not trivial amount of work.

> These are important features in my view on the way to make zypper
> usable for admins.

OK, you convinced me :O)

> (Yes, it is getting there :-) I am currently running yum and zypper
> aside on some machines, closely comparing and validating what's
> happening. And I can say, there are quite some things that work
> pleasantly already. Very happy that I can finally keep old kernels, for
> instance.)

That's good! :O)

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cheers,
jano


 Ján Kupec
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