Mailinglist Archive: zypp-devel (230 mails)

["Dr. Peter Poeml" <poeml@xxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 09:40:09AM +0000, Francis Giannaros wrote:
> On Feb 12, 2008 9:35 AM, Klaus Kaempf <kkaempf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > * Michael Matz <matz@xxxxxxx> [Feb 12. 2008 10:28]:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Klaus Kaempf wrote:
> > >
> > > > * Michael Matz <matz@xxxxxxx> [Feb 12. 2008 09:51]:
> > > > > I hope that neither CD nor NFS protocol are really downloaded.  Both 
> > > > > are
> > > > > local protocols.
> > > >
> > > > Well, people have requested just this in the past. It should be
> > > > configurable.
> > >
> > > Unless this can be explained in more words than "it was requested" I stand
> > > by my assessment of that being nonsensical.
> >
> > The use case is "have all relevant packages in one directory so they
> > can be copied to an usb-stick or cdrom and distributed".

I didn't know that usecase. Myself, I find I most often need to keep
packages (and look at them) for debugging reasons, only. Thus, I
consider an option to keep downloaded packages highly useful. Globally
is enough for me.

However I am aware that people often want to strictly avoid copying
packages of local media (DVD) to local disk, while at the same time they
want to cache packages downloaded from remotely. Since people use
package managers to set up build systems and image creation, this is
somehow a recurring scenario, in my experience.

Anyhow, don't forget a command to prune the cache. It is the most
important one ;-)

And if a "keep packages" configuration ever is the default, be sure to
add a cron job to remove all those packages every few months. Filled-up
harddisks are very disturbing.


> > One doesn't always have the right CD at hand (or is connected to the
> > right network with NFS access) when trying to install a specific set
> > of packages (installed before to a 'reference' system) on another
> > computer.
>
> Yeah, I see this asked quite a lot on IRC. It would be nice if there
> was a "download only" option (i.e. download at work, take disk home,
> install there).

That's why (with yum) there is a "yumdownloader". I use it quite often.
I would like to see similar functionality in zypper.

Peter
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