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Re: [zypp-devel] Deprecated Pattern::install_packages() ?
- From: Lukas Ocilka <lukas.ocilka@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:50:40 +0200
- Message-id: <46CEC610.8010000@xxxxxxx>
Stefan Hundhammer wrote:
> On Friday 24 August 2007 11:03, Stefan Schubert wrote:
> ...
> As a user, I want to know what packages I'll get before I select a pattern. If
> the new behaviour is like you described, the user will se no pattern content
> (no packages) before selecting the pattern and all packages that somehow got
> dragged into the install set (regardless whether by the pattern or otherwise)
> afterwards.
>
> This invalidates the whole idea of that "Patterns" filter view. The only thing
> that would make sense would to only have the simple pattern selector that
> ...
> Very much the same would be true for patch contents that (AFAICS) has the same
> problem: No list of packages any more.
That's true, as a user, I always check which packages a patch/pattern
contains because I want to know the relation between the patch/pattern
(name) and its content (what it affected, what else should I select...).
Such statements as "user doesn't want", "user wants", "user needs"
should be supported by, at least, some mail written to the community at
factory@opensuse or some Internet survey.
It seems we need to provide surveys *before* we change some important
parts, or, at least, *after* we change them (however *before* sounds
better).
Frankly, I've found, that all of us (including myself, of course) are
"freaks" :) that don't now what the real life is :) ;) We know our
distribution, we know our packages, we know our source code, but we
really *don't know* what our users want...
Is There Anybody Out There?
Lukas
> On Friday 24 August 2007 11:03, Stefan Schubert wrote:
> ...
> As a user, I want to know what packages I'll get before I select a pattern. If
> the new behaviour is like you described, the user will se no pattern content
> (no packages) before selecting the pattern and all packages that somehow got
> dragged into the install set (regardless whether by the pattern or otherwise)
> afterwards.
>
> This invalidates the whole idea of that "Patterns" filter view. The only thing
> that would make sense would to only have the simple pattern selector that
> ...
> Very much the same would be true for patch contents that (AFAICS) has the same
> problem: No list of packages any more.
That's true, as a user, I always check which packages a patch/pattern
contains because I want to know the relation between the patch/pattern
(name) and its content (what it affected, what else should I select...).
Such statements as "user doesn't want", "user wants", "user needs"
should be supported by, at least, some mail written to the community at
factory@opensuse or some Internet survey.
It seems we need to provide surveys *before* we change some important
parts, or, at least, *after* we change them (however *before* sounds
better).
Frankly, I've found, that all of us (including myself, of course) are
"freaks" :) that don't now what the real life is :) ;) We know our
distribution, we know our packages, we know our source code, but we
really *don't know* what our users want...
Is There Anybody Out There?
Lukas
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